A historic Day for Liberty and Freedom

[militaryspetproject]

Anyway, I my point is that God and Country should be seperate and the lifestyles of one group of people should not be held more acceptable than another.

Agreed.

 

[Mister_Prophet]

I'm going to work, I expect this thread to reset back to square one when I check in tonight

 

[SaintBeam]

Oh so my enitre christian upbrining is total BS because you, the righteous Saint Beam, has come down from Heaven and "set it straight"

Possibly. Did you bother to read the WARNING!! disclamer in my sig? That pretty much says it all.

You remind me of this 40 year old virgin theology teacher who tried to convince me that Satan was trying to poison my soul.

Once again, possibly.

Which alone makes God a bastard, if what you say is true. Nothing is more idiotic than damning the ancestors of someone who wronged you.

I said "Their choice damned humanity" not God damned humanity for it.

Oh Please, can't you tell that preaching your into this discussion will only get you more ridicule.

What I say is only ridiculed by the ignorant and foolish.

Once again, I always found this belief to be bullshiit, I don't think a baby can be held accountable for the actions of it's parents.

Well, if we ever create our own Universe, We'll be able to set things up as we see fit in our self-righteous view of "how it outta be". Until then however...

No Saint, Homosexuality is a human lifestyle which should be tolerated. It's thinking your "preverted satanic lifestyle" that starts all this hatred for Gay people in the first place, and makes people wanna pass laws against them.

Tolerated yes. Accepted as right, no. As I've explained, objecting to something that is wrong is not an act of hate. If anything, it's an act of love. Love says,"I don't care if you're willing to settle for less than the best, I want you to have the best." Since God is love and God knows what's best, He is against any way of living that goes against what He set up to be the best for us.

Look, you believe in God, Fine, but as Beetle Juice said, there is a seperation of Church and State in the US, PERIOD. No "ifs" or "buts". The bottom line is, that this law against sodomy is unconstitutional and goes against our rights as citizens. Nothing relgious should have to do with that.

Although what you say is true in theory, I have found that the ferther a society strays from God, the worse that society becomes.

 

[Cat Fuzz]

Reading this thread has made me ill!! I just dont even know what to say to any of it! I think the points have been argured to death(And I have to say well done Btljuice)! It saddens me to no end that we are still trying to understand each other. When its just a fact of life that we are all different and we need to accept that and try and be more tolerant!!

Tolerance = agreeing with you. No thanks.

 

[Cat Fuzz]

Your wrong here. I have no hate in my heart. I dont hate anyone or anything. I have tried hate... and it gets you no where. It doesnt answer any of the questions we have. I dont understand how I have been hateful at all or why you have that perception of me.

Don't bother MPP, I've heard this kind of defense before, they don't think of anything good to say so he accuses you of being full of hatred or whatever. People with his kind of attitude about Christianity have been using the same lines trying to "explain" to awesomeness of God to me for my whole life, and it doesn't get any less ridiculous.

I do believe the accusation of hatefulness came from YOUR side of the arguement in the first place.

 

[Cat Fuzz]

It just makes me sad... Its so frustrating when you want to understand someone or at least where they are coming from... and they dont seem to want to take the time to understand you or your position on things.

Back at ya!

I do understand your viewpoint and I reject it. I have seen the world from a secular perspective and I don't like it. I used to be quite liberal, until I wised up.

 

[Cat Fuzz]

There is no "seperation of church and state" that is mandated by any law. I don't don't know what orifice you people keep pulling this from. There can never be total seperation of church and state, unless you ban religion altogether.

 

[militaryspetproject]

Back at ya!

I do understand your viewpoint and I reject it. I have seen the world from a secular perspective and I don't like it. I used to be quite liberal, until I wised up.

Wised up to what? What made you change your mind?

 

[militaryspetproject]

I do believe the accusation of hatefulness came from YOUR side of the arguement in the first place.

tell me it isnt hateful... to say things like "Homosexuality is but one of many possible manifestations of satan's peverted influence on humanity"
and "perverted Union" and comparing homosexuality to beastiality.

 

[BangOut]

anything other than a man sticking it in a woman's cooter is a perversion of the gentials' purposes when you think about it, so bestiality, masturbation, butt sex, and oral sex is all really doing it wrong... it's just that religion deems them all to be wrong, the law only deems some of them to be wrong

 

[Zeta]

Tolerance = agreeing with you. No thanks.

I'm sorry does it anywhere in there say ARGEE WITH ME! No it doesn't!! So blow it out your arse! I understand that you hold your beliefs very close to you. And in your eyes things are supposed to be a certain way. Unfortunately for you we don’t all have this same beliefs! My belief is that no has the right to tell someone a way to live there live or a way to believe in things. Just because your religion says that’s it an Original Sin to have a same-sex relationship doesn't mean that the government should hold to this and make laws based upon it! That is just silly. Religion is someone’s faith! Not everyone has the SAME faith!

 

[Zeta]

anything other than a man sticking it in a woman's cooter is a perversion of the gentials' purposes when you think about it, so bestiality, masturbation, butt sex, and oral sex is all really doing it wrong... it's just that religion deems them all to be wrong, the law only deems some of them to be wrong

Wow your sex life much be pretty fun!!!!!! The law has no right to tell anyone where they can stick it!!

 

[BangOut]

Wow you're a ****ing moron! I was stating pure facts that you took as a sermon. Now go masturbate to pictures of mpp and leave the rest of us alone.

 

[militaryspetproject]

Wow you're a ****ing moron! I was stating pure facts that you took as a sermon. Now go masturbate to pictures of mpp and leave the rest of us alone.

thats hot!

 

[Btljuice]

I guess its ok for states to designate the Missionary postition as the only legal position then. And if you get caught doing it standing up or doggie style then they can throw your ass in prison for the next 20 years and that'll be ok with you.

 

[SaintBeam]

tell me it isnt hateful... to say things like "Homosexuality is but one of many possible manifestations of satan's peverted influence on humanity"
and "perverted Union" and comparing homosexuality to beastiality.

It's not hateful, it's true. Just because you've decided in your own righteousness that bestiality is offensive and homosexuality isn't, doesn't make my comparing the two hateful. Hateful would be "God hates the filthy gays and doesn't want them saved." or "Let's kill all the homos" or some such nonsense.

In my statements, I've spoken exclusively about the peverse nature of the behavior. I never once refered to the people themselves. You seem to lump "people" and "what people do (how people live)" into the same category and that is unfortunate. If someone has cancer, do you love the cancer because you happen to love the person with cancer? Do you look at the person who was born blind and say, "Hey, there is a surgery that could give this person sight but I'm against it because it would be changing who they are."? I can precieve the difference, can't you?

 

[Cat Fuzz]

/me offers up a high 5 to SaintBeam

 

[SaintBeam]

/me high 5s CatFuzz and gives the glory to God.

 

[BangOut]

...

that was ghey

 

[diddlysquat]

Kind of like a car wreck,

no matter how you try, you just can't look away.