What DP's not telling you is that your in game mouse sens means nothing. OS mouse sens, DPI, polling rate all change what the in-game sens settings mean. DP's .75 could be your 2 for all we know.
Help me steady my aiming mouse cursor
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Gamers can pretty easily be separated out into different tiers. Maybe something like this...
1. Top competitive
2. Competitive
3. Top pubber
4. Pubber
5. Newbie
2. Competitive
3. Top pubber
4. Pubber
5. Newbie
Each tier will make the ones below it seem like newbs in comparison because the difference in skill is fairly large. I was competitive in nature but I never really explored the competitive scene any (1v1 is about as far as I got), so I was probably around tier 2.5. In CoD4 I'm a 3 because I've yet to play a single competitive match, so I don't yet understand how to play against those guys. I'll dominate the pubs and get huge positive net scores until some tier 2 guys show up, at which point I will likely have some troubles.
The biggest thing that separates tiers 2 and 3 is knowledge of gameplay. By virtue of the way you believe that weapon switching and aim is what it takes to be the top, it's obvious you aren't there yet.
Tier 2 knows how to play, and this knowledge goes far beyond simply out-aiming the other guy. It's not just about getting pickups -- it's about getting them at the right time or avoiding them to set up a kill. It's not about how well you aim but if you can hit the shots that really matter. It's not about walldodging but predicting your opponents' movements while keeping yourself unpredictable. It's not about fragging anymore -- it's about stopping the other guys from fragging you.
A guy from tier 3 might have fantastic aim, but a tier 2 guy with lesser aim that understands how to play better will win. That's how it is and how it'll always be. CoD4 is a perfect example of that. Barring the sniper rifles, all the guns are various degrees of randomly-fired instant-hit bullets. The thing that separates people isn't aim but knowing where they need to be and when.
Naturally, tier 1 is reserved for those that are annoyingly good in both aim and gameplay ability. Guys like Luxxiz or Gimix.
Well in fact I DO believe that knowledge of the map and trying to predict your opponents moves and your corresponding countermoves is indeed critical. Also I do believe that movement skill is far more important than aiming. If I seemed to convey the impression that aim was the most important thing to improve it's only because I'm trying to nail down that part of game first because I suspect hardware issues are partly to blame. My bad...
I have noticed myself in bot games now watching weapon powerups or armor or even the BR ball for bots to come for them so I can time a kill more easily. Only bots to be sure but perhaps it's somewhat illustrative of what you're talking about. In many ways knowledge of the map can make up for some serious weakness especially I imagine if you're on a team. And while I have a few favorite maps and game types I'm surely not going to take the time to try to learn them all especially since I am not as good at memory retention as I used to be. Consequence of aging you see. Therefore I never expect to make it to tiers 1 or 2.
I'm not even sure you can really practice the things that put you in those final tiers. They seem instinctual-- though of course learning to pick up on sound cues like footsteps or picking up of weapons or armor is critical.
Thus to me you and JD ARE top tier enough and I'll put that as a goal to at least try to be competitive with you.
good luck with that
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the server doesn't show in the browser as it's passworded, you'll have to check the thread & open/add it yourself.
some of us also use www.xfire.com as well as irc to arrange games.
good luck with that
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the server doesn't show in the browser as it's passworded, you'll have to check the thread & open/add it yourself.
some of us also use www.xfire.com as well as irc to arrange games.
Thanks for the 'good luck'--I'll need it. Sounds like you have had first hand experience with them as well.
Yeah I have Crossfire installed but for some reason it refuses to let me join a game when I click "JOIN". Does this also mean those servers are passworded but show up anyway?
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Actually it's not called crossfire, just xfire. I was confused because crossfire is the ATI equivelent to SLI so I thought you had a graphics card problem.
As far as your problem it might be that xfire isn't correctly finding your game exe. Try messing around in the settings.
As far as your problem it might be that xfire isn't correctly finding your game exe. Try messing around in the settings.
OK... I leave for a week and when I get back there is a massive thread on one of my favourite topics.
I am fanatical about aim
I will try to join by providing all the info you guys have already given
I have logitech g5 (original) on steelpad 5l pad, my sens for ut2004 is about 13 inches for 360 degrees. I originally set dpi on the mouse to 1550 and in game sens to 0.25
I've tried moving the dpi up to 2000 and then making the sens in the user.ini 0.19375, and I think it worked because its still 13 inches, but it displays as 0.25 in the settings, (still 0.19375 in ini though) Does anyone know if changing it in the ini works... fov is 90 and fps is 85 online. 24 inch screen with 1280 x 1024
I downloaded the new set point so I could upgrade the response rate to 1000 hz, doesnt affect sens, only number of times a signal is sent from the mouse each second.
I have it set to os implementation in setpoint... not sure what changing this will do, 4th lowest in both control panel and set point for cursor speed, thats probably why I dont notice a difference...
I haven't used the accel fix you provided, but I used one years ago called mousefix.reg (a registry editor) that came with an aiming tutorial for another game I played years ago. All OS and setpoint settings disable acceleration aswell.
33 cm works well for me, because I have a massive mouse pad, and I agree with whoever before said that using movement can help you aim.
I am fanatical about aim
I will try to join by providing all the info you guys have already given
I have logitech g5 (original) on steelpad 5l pad, my sens for ut2004 is about 13 inches for 360 degrees. I originally set dpi on the mouse to 1550 and in game sens to 0.25
I've tried moving the dpi up to 2000 and then making the sens in the user.ini 0.19375, and I think it worked because its still 13 inches, but it displays as 0.25 in the settings, (still 0.19375 in ini though) Does anyone know if changing it in the ini works... fov is 90 and fps is 85 online. 24 inch screen with 1280 x 1024
I downloaded the new set point so I could upgrade the response rate to 1000 hz, doesnt affect sens, only number of times a signal is sent from the mouse each second.
I have it set to os implementation in setpoint... not sure what changing this will do, 4th lowest in both control panel and set point for cursor speed, thats probably why I dont notice a difference...
I haven't used the accel fix you provided, but I used one years ago called mousefix.reg (a registry editor) that came with an aiming tutorial for another game I played years ago. All OS and setpoint settings disable acceleration aswell.
33 cm works well for me, because I have a massive mouse pad, and I agree with whoever before said that using movement can help you aim.
Consistent with KaL976 on the 360 turn. I'd like to go back to exactly how those still following this thread are moving their mouse. T2A stated he played "from the wrist with my elbow resting on the arm of my chair". I think this must be similar to what I have been doing which is resting most of my forearm excluding my elbow on my table (not a desk because my large monitor and surround speakers and XBOX 360 require a large coffe table setup). This means for mouse movement I'm merely pivoting my wrist. This seems to stabilize mouse movement allowing higher sensitivity but I notice I have trouble with tracking circle strafers as your wrist only pivots so far.
Don't know about the ini. below 25 thing but seeings how for now I'm at 2.75-3.00 your number seems agoningly slow. How is snap turning for you? I see you're playing at 4:3 ratio resolution on your monitor--I presume you don't have a widescreen LCD?
Most of your other specs regarding FOV, fps, and how you have configured your OS mouse settings are identical to mine as is your screen res. though I am at 1280 x 720 for widescreen format. In fact because my computer is so old I really can't turn the res. any higher since at 60hz I start getting screen tearing and/or flicker which is making it even harder to target. Seems when I upgraded the monitor which isn't the greatest for gaming fpsers anyway-- but it tripes as a TV and an XBOX 360 monitor--I really needed to upgrade the PC and video card to take advantage of it. Plan on picking up a new computer soon probably an HP so anyone with recommendations for a certain model and video card are welcome to reply.
For now would anyone care to describe their mouse movement technique?
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@Ben: The GUI only lets sensitivity go down to 0.25, but as long as you've set it in the INI it'll work. Just don't go into the in-game settings and try to mess with it.