Help me steady my aiming mouse cursor

[jackstere]

Well after that I did show him a lot of moves on the maps like Ant. We practiced the shortcuts and general slope dodges and he was getting the hang of it. Hopefully he's kept that up and has a good grasp on some of the advanced moves on the stock maps.

I think JD and I were arguing about the usefulness of playing against bots in another forum's website. I think he challenged me to both show me how wrong I was and to see how far along I was in my gameplay. Though I knew even at the time he was gonna paste me I hadn't tried online play before (didn't even know how to connect to his server) and what the heck surely I could at least get a couple of kills here and there. Then I was fool enough to let him pick the map--don't remember which--and if I remember correctly I don't think I got him down under 80 life all game. Gotta know the maps: powerups and weapons and be able to tell where your opponent is as often as possible and I don't know many maps very well. When you add that to the fact that my movement skills were a joke and my aim not much better you see the result against a great player. The funny thing here was that all he really did was charge me most of the time by his own admission. Even more shocking to me was his belief that there are players out there (pros probably) who could make him look silly. I didn't believe that and still really don't but I have a demo recording of a guy I spectated on a CTF Face map whose movement and firing skills simply made my head spin in amazement. Don't think I'll ever get that good but if I can someday make someone like JD sweat a little in a match at least I know I'll do well in most other matchups.

But no John my PC went down not long after our meeting and I got back into console gaming until recently. Still these threads and tweaks have definitely helped as has learning a few useful binds. I'm doing my homework more seriously this time. I think I'm better than the last time we met but not yet even close to ready to challenge you again. I'll let you know when I'm ready to try.

BTW if you don't have UT2004 on your PC anymore are you still part of Carpe Imperium?

 

[jackstere]

That said, I never practiced too hard, which is why I only ever got decent instead of good. It was enough to be top five at FragBU, but in the grand scheme of things I was nothing.

Find it hard to believe you were nothing with the way you're able to converse on these forums. You show great experience on many topics and have found your advice well worth heeding. Perhaps you're not pro caliber but I'd be willing to bet your in the top 20%.

How does one just happen to find someone that I think may be at my skill level?

 

[jackstere]

When - in the past - I was more 'sniper' oriented (aim) than melee (twitch) - I would keep mouse resolution high while keeping speed low on a cloth (my choice was the Allsop blue rain drop pad) mouse pad.

This killed aim jitter for me.

Depending on the game, fast turns can be made with keybinds. (Turn)

When not in sniper/aim mode, fast settings with a hard slick surface is my choice.

Okay another idea worth a try.

 

[T2A`]

Yeah. Whatever he just said, ignore it.

Here's that video I said I'd make (minus sound because I'm lazy). I used to do this before pub 1v1s over and over out of boredom whilst waiting for someone to show up. I dunno if it'll help, but it might give you something to try. It's been quite some time, though, so I didn't pull off the triple combo down the 100a hallway. This was my first go and I didn't feel like going until I got it; it's a good enough demonstration as it is. Again, lazy. D:

http://www.mediafire.com/?yjnnza2jmby

You need the Xvid codec to watch it, which you'll have if you've ever been into frag video downloading. But if not, there it is.

 

[jackstere]

Yeah. Whatever he just said, ignore it.

Here's that video I said I'd make (minus sound because I'm lazy). I used to do this before pub 1v1s over and over out of boredom whilst waiting for someone to show up. I dunno if it'll help, but it might give you something to try. It's been quite some time, though, so I didn't pull off the triple combo down the 100a hallway. This was my first go and I didn't feel like going until I got it; it's a good enough demonstration as it is. Again, lazy. D:

http://www.mediafire.com/?yjnnza2jmby

You need the Xvid codec to watch it, which you'll have if you've ever been into frag video downloading. But if not, there it is.

Good God! And you thought you were nothing yet! Steady as a rock aiming cursor the whole time. I presume for you that it's the right mouse button for sec. fire and left for primary. I have been trying out the right mouse button for jumping and using the Middle (mousewheel) for the secondary fire but this seems to cause unsteadiness in the cursor when I have move my finger back to the left mouse to fire the followup detonation shot. This arrangement has worked well for all other weapons but not the shock rifle. May have to fiddle around with my mouse binds.

 

[JohnDoe641]

That's more or less the average aim ability that you'll see in 2k4 for most regular players. Even in the other UT games his aim is on par with most people, if not slightly better than average.

I'm assuming this because like T2A, most people playing 2k4 are still playing from when I was playing so the skill level has probably remained higher than most games would.

 

[jackstere]

That's more or less the average aim ability that you'll see in 2k4 for most regular players. Even in the other UT games his aim is on par with most people, if not slightly better than average.

I'm assuming this because like T2A, most people playing 2k4 are still playing from when I was playing so the skill level has probably remained higher than most games would.

Surely you jest. Doing triple combos in full motion seems quite difficult. This may be average aim for most good or great players but not of the community as a whole...is it? If so I'm even worse than I imagined .

 

[xMurphyx]

I can't do it in UT2004 either. Respect to those who can.
I can do it rather easily in UC2 but the hitbox for the shock-cores is very forgiving in that game.

 

[JohnDoe641]

Surely you jest. Doing triple combos in full motion seems quite difficult. This may be average aim for most good or great players but not of the community as a whole...is it? If so I'm even worse than I imagined .

Triple combos are just fancy off-line stuff but double combos are a valid tactic that I used to use on-line. I know that T2A has done double combos on-line before and I've seen plenty of other people use them as well, they aren't hard at all tbh with the 2k4 shock. Like I said before, the skill level is probably just as high as when I left, probably even more so now that the lower tier players have gotten better at the game.

 

[T2A`]

The key point to all of this is that most of what's left of the community is competitive, ex-competitive, or otherwise relatively skilled players. The vast majority of the noobs and casual players left long ago. It's not so much that the community has improved in any way, but merely that the lower end has dropped off because most of those guys dipped out. This makes the average skill higher simply because the scale of talent has shifted away from the ones that left.

Compared to everyone who has ever played UT2004, people like me and JD are definitely in the top tier somewhere, but that's mainly because that would include a sh*tload of lesser players that simply don't exist anymore. I can't speak for JD, but as far as the competitive community is concerned, I never made a name for myself and I regularly lost to what I would consider good players. While what you see may seem amazing to you, to the good players I used to play, it's common, simple, and ultimately wasn't good enough.

 

[JohnDoe641]

Unfortunately for us, the next tier up was too much of a jump and whenever I faced someone like that I'd end up getting completely trashed by them. I don't see that fine line of distinction in UT3 but since there's so little people playing, that's probably why.

I could go 30+ - 0 on some people and others could easily go 30+ - 0 on me, in the big scheme of things, I was nothing.

 

[KaL976]

Surely you jest. Doing triple combos in full motion seems quite difficult. This may be average aim for most good or great players but not of the community as a whole...is it? If so I'm even worse than I imagined .

if you have the time or inclination you could find people to play who are more at your level on irc in #fragbu on ETG. Al, Bob & A5 for example spring to mind

we have our own server, there's a sticky thread at the top of this forum with all the info.

 

[Dark Pulse]

I'd venture most people who give a poop go through a tweaker phase. I'm sure even DP did even though he will never admit it.

Depends on what exactly you mean by tweaks. I've lowered my mouse sens as I got better (I remember starting with a whopping 5.0 when I first played UT and now anything above 0.75 feels way too fast) but if you mean like INI tweaks, not really except to try to increase the eye candy.

I play with all that crap on and still do damn good, remember, although that did lead to hilarious things like me hiding in bushes that weren't there for hal.

 

[KaL976]

good times

i run holy sh1t settings too although i have foliage & weather effects off

 

[T2A`]

Then it's not holy sh*t settings. Weather effects and foliage are key to obstructing vision and therefore the key to being anti-pr0.

 

[KaL976]

oh it's much worse than that. i like utcomp & hidden weapons too

 

[jackstere]

I could go 30+ - 0 on some people and others could easily go 30+ - 0 on me, in the big scheme of things, I was nothing.

I guess I'm in no position to challenge your statement yet I rather suspect some of the difference between you and "the elites or pros or wth you want to call them" is just that they know the maps so well that they've got all the powerups timed out as well as knowing exactly where every wall dodge will take them. I can't imagine them being much more accurate with weapons than you guys are, at least not so that you'd lose by 30 kills. Perhaps they have a slightly superior weapon bind setup on their keyboards such that they draw just a bit quicker exactly what they want. The guy I demo-recorded on CTF Face pretty much did the exact same route to his powerups immediately after getting fragged. He then showed his immaturity by typing "F----- shield camper" to a player that waited for him at the exit point of a teleporter on top of a Tower. I thought to myself what an as----- getting mad at someone who figured out what he was doing and waited and punished him for it. I think many of these pros are just people who do nothing else with themselves and practice and play non-stop on favorite maps. Probably kids or young teenagers under 18 or 19 years old.

Okay maybe you're not pros. A very few even globally are. You've got lives. Taking these pros out of the equation makes me believe that you JD and T2A--and from the looks of his challenge result on Rankin you posted JD Defeat -- you're the top of the next tier which ain't that far down. So I object to the phrase "I was nothing". In fact you're better than they are insofar as you've taken the time to help others here who are at a point you long ago were at. You're elite enough that I will do well to heed good advice from. Just got to hope I can execute some of it.

 

[jackstere]

and now anything above 0.75 feels way too fast

Wow this seems very slow to me. Can you snap turn at all?

 

[jackstere]

if you have the time or inclination you could find people to play who are more at your level on irc in #fragbu on ETG. Al, Bob & A5 for example spring to mind

we have our own server, there's a sticky thread at the top of this forum with all the info.

Thanks KaL. Might just do that. Is your server listed in the "server" section in game so that I could spectate or download the maps you play on? I have the "cache extractor" program installed and could practice on some of your maps first. And may I say here that many of the maps I have seen on-line are simply stunning. Plaudits to all of you map makers.

 

[Dark Pulse]

Wow this seems very slow to me. Can you snap turn at all?

I can do a full 180 with my mousepad's width, which is all I need.