Obama is the presumptive democratic nominee

  • Two Factor Authentication is now available on BeyondUnreal Forums. To configure it, visit your Profile and look for the "Two Step Verification" option on the left side. We can send codes via email (may be slower) or you can set up any TOTP Authenticator app on your phone (Authy, Google Authenticator, etc) to deliver codes. It is highly recommended that you configure this to keep your account safe.

kiff

That guy from Texas. Give me some Cash
Jan 19, 2008
3,793
0
0
Tx.
www.desert-conflict.org
If you're working extremely hard in the U.S. - you can get healthcare. Even if you're not working extremely hard in the U.S. - you can get healthcare.

It seems to be a popular misconception that you cannot get medical attention if you are sick and poor here in the U.S.
very true. In all of the hospitals I've been to around here, the emergency rooms have signs stating that they must provide (emergency ) care even if you can't pay. even for normal healthcare hospitals make allowances for people that can't/don't pay their bills. My mother worked in medical records for a hospital and she's told me about the huge amounts of money they would write off every year due to this. I forget the exact numbers, but it is many, many of millions for a single location.
 

Jonathan

New Member
Mar 19, 2006
542
0
0
Mohammad married at least one 12 year old girl, but I'm not sure if there were any younger.

And for the record, my sister and her husband/kids have no healthcare, but they all see the doctor, have had to go to the hospital a few times, etc. and are fine. They just pay for their medical bills.

I haven't had healthcare insurance since I stopped working at UPS, some 3-4 years ago, and didn't have it before then for several years. In highschool I bought some cheap insurance through my employer, but it wasn't too swooft, and I never even used it that I can remember.

Politicians love to make you feel like your rights are being violated, that "you can't do it on your own" and you need their help, because the more you rely on them, the bigger the government grows.

People need to realize, the more the government does for you, the less freedom you have. Like your parents, as a child, they took care of you and provided for you, but along with that, you were under their rule.
 
Last edited:

Jonathan

New Member
Mar 19, 2006
542
0
0
Now that's really messed up.

And also, devout follower of Islam, be sure to beat your wife "lightly" if she misbehaves.
004.034
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.034

. . .and,
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.005
 
Last edited:

Zur

surrealistic mad cow
Jul 8, 2002
11,708
8
38
49
Mohammad married at least one 12 year old girl, but I'm not sure if there were any younger.

I fail to see the relevance of this information in this discussion. As some forumers know my father was arrested a few years ago for detention of child pornography. Does this somehow make me undesireable ? Because if that's the case I'd like to know.

People need to realize, the more the government does for you, the less freedom you have. Like your parents, as a child, they took care of you and provided for you, but along with that, you were under their rule.

Wow and there was me thinking you were one of those people that was capable of some restraint while putting some pretty rough ideas accross. Don't think you can fool this old monkey by hiding behind this excuse that you're merely stating facts.

To finish off on what you were saying your parents looked after you in the hope that you'd acquire some independance and you were under their rule until you reached the age of responsability. Noone likes a nanny state but, following your analogy, wouldn't a government that looks less after its people be more tempted to look after itself ? There is a middle ground between extremes you know.

But I have no need to go to such lengths to demonstrate fallacy. Your ideas (are they really your ideas or have they been spoonfed to you ?) as well those of a few others floating around this forum can only be propagated by the unexperienced, obtuse, healthy, shortsighted, selfish and, last but not least, intolerant. Yes, intolerant because it's clear that from statements like these you have a little xenophobia to express.

You and others need to go outside more to enjoy life and the company of others instead of churning out hate. That is unless you'd prefer putting your views to the test while serving as cannon fodder like many generations of young men before you. Those old people in power just love to use the young to get them killed in their place.

Sorry but you won't get your revolution and good luck pushing your ideas with the sick and the old people in Florida. I'm certain they'd be enchanted to hear about your master plan to convert them in green biscuits for being such sorry wastes of space. Because that's where your ideals are heading. Total disinvolvment of the state means that the weak might as well perish.
 
Last edited:

Jonathan

New Member
Mar 19, 2006
542
0
0
LOL, you don't even know me!

My mom needs surgery, but she can't afford it, so she's been having to live a limited life-style and not do much the past few years, because she can't afford the surgery. Does that mean the government should step in? NO! My parents are going to have to save up for the sugery and get it done as soon as they can. It's not the governments job, my parents are working hard, trying to put money aside. Sure, we'd benefit in the short-term with "free healthcare" but nothing is free.

As for my ideas, most of my relatives are democrats and love government-issued things. I never was taught to be a republican, as most related to me are democrats or RINOs.

And no, total disinvolvment of the state means men can be free to take care of themselves, to work hard, and achieve their dreams. How many times does communism or socialism have to fail before liberal realize their "paradise" is never going to happen, as all men aren't "good" to begin with, and they certainly will not work just to help others, as it is ingrained in man for self-preservation, and capitalism realizes this. So many other are still living in a fairy-tale world where everyone is perfect. It's not the government's job to help individuals, it's their job to keep the country secure. I have helped several times in homeless shelters and also fed those who were too poor to feed themselves. Most of the time if a man asks for money because he's hungry, I don't give him money (as often they'll use it for drugs/alcohol), but will usually just buy them something to eat. Charity should be carried out by churches and groups, and it has nothing to do with the government.

As for the Bible, sure it has many things in it that are hard to swallow, but nevertheless they're true, and whether you acknowledge that is besides the point and doesn't change a thing.
 
Last edited:

Jonathan

New Member
Mar 19, 2006
542
0
0
The capitalism you speak of is dead.

No, it'll continue on, and again and again socialism will rear it's ugly head, fail again, and capitalism will come out on top again.

Too bad some have to learn by experience.
 

Jonathan

New Member
Mar 19, 2006
542
0
0
Wait.
What?
You're trying to tell me that it's all true. The Bible is factual and indisputable?

:lol:

Yes. I don't see anything funny about it. You can't show it's wrong, has errors, or other drivel that exudes from "skeptic's annotated Bible."
 
Last edited:

Jonathan

New Member
Mar 19, 2006
542
0
0
So you believe the earth, the universe, and all we see around us was created in 7 days time at the snap of some large, mystic fingers?

You believe nothing imploded. . .errr, exploded into something, set itself in order, planets aligned themselves, began rotating, earth started to support life, life started "on the back of crystals" from a lighting bolt and you just happen to be here by chance and multiple mutations (which hurt a species the majority of time)? Or maybe it was aliens came and made us out of play-doh? And the conscience you have now, knowing right from wrong without outside influence just was a product of random changes to a species?


But yes, this is way off-topic. :)
 
Last edited: