shadow_dragon
is ironing his panties!
We do not-not torture because we are wimpy. We do not torture because we are better than them.
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We do not-not torture because we are wimpy. We do not torture because we are better than them.
everyone followed Bush? wtf? Oh yea, I'm against a $20 trillion debt because Obama's black. yep, that's itEveryone followed bush to the grave, but got forbid anyone take orders from a "n igger".
Oh, you mean like how we're printing and borrowing money from China?At the end of the day it's your country and if you want to weaken it, others will take it over, both through business and through real estate.
Because at the ned of the day, all it is is a partisan witch hunt. You can call it whatever you like, but it is still the same thing. And until this crap stops, I'll continue to call it what it is.The thing is, we both agree that everyone involved should be prosecuted, regardless of party. I'm saying that you reply to me by repeating "stop making this a partisan witchunt" when the very post you're replying to says "This should be non-partisan, if Pelosi was in on it she goes down too." I'm just asking for some comprehension here instead of canned responses.
Other than continuing the same battles, what other options were there? We tried incendiary bombing of Tokyo to render it more damaged and more dead than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined, but did that stop the Japanese? Nope. It was only after we showed them that we had the "ultimate" weapon and weren't afraid to use it that they backed down.I've already made my views on nuking innocent civilians (and the supreme irony of then telling other people they can't have nukes) known. The thing is: There could have been other options. There almost certainly were other options -- the Kamikaze tactic itself was indicative of the Japanese desperation by that point, because if they had to ram planes into decks it means they were running out of other options; who's to say that sitting off the coast and shelling targets for a few months wouldn't have worked? But the bombs were dropped, and then the history books were written to say "the bombs had to be dropped, there was no other choice", and thus it goes down in history. Nobody except the higher levels of intelligence/power at the time will ever know.
Losses in the two bombings totaled by all estimates less than 300,000, and that included those survivors who died by 1950 due to radiation poisoning. Estimates of a continuing war with Japan showed American losses to be of about 1 million and Japanese losses to be close to that. It sounds horrible to kill a quarter of a million to save possible 8 times that many. Honestly, I would NOT wanted to have been on the decision making end of that. I would not want that on my conscience either way it went.I don't hold one set of a million people as more valuable than another set of a million people.
wow! Yea, Bush and the neo-cons, and them alone, caused the whole housing market bubble and crash. yep, that's it!You are in a rut. Your country is literally falling apart. This is where Bush put you. Unfortunatley you will have to stay there for a while before things get better.
The truth is that no matter what news channel you watch, they pretty much report the same stories. Fox puts a "republican" spin on it and all of the other put a "democratic" spin on it. You go ahead and just watch one side of the spin and think you're informed.But if this offends you I'm sorry. I'm sure you'll feel better when you watch Fox news at 11 and they tell you how to feel.
I'm searching for a new dealer and it sounds like yours has good ****. Could you introduce me to him?we can play word games all day long, but the bottom line is that you'd condone waterboarding on innocent people just because they volunteer, yet you don't condone waterboarding on terrorists that volunteer to plot and kill innocent people in an effort to save lives.
I'm searching for a new dealer and it sounds like yours has good ****. Could you introduce me to him?
Fights like this one (not this thread) are literally pulling America apart. People just don't get it. You are hurting your country by not backing your president. The real partiots are the middle class people who are trying to fight for a better america. These tea parties are just those rich groups who don't need "America" tricking you (and you are being tricked) into pushing their agenda.
You are in a rut. Your country is literally falling apart. This is where Bush put you.
Unfortunatley you will have to stay there for a while before things get better.
If they save lives and work so hard at their craft, they don't have time to spend millions of dollars a year on entertainment and luxury, or at least they shouldn't. Sorry, golfing on your private island you sailed to on your private yacht is not practicing an altruistic saintly career path, it's just being a greedy remorseless chud, and propping yourself on a pedastool so you can look down on all the peons. Many of whom are slaving away in ****ty dead end jobs, whether or not they had the potential to be skilled surgeons or masters of some other more "respected" career. Meanwhile any dullard who had mom and dad's money to push them through college gets a chance to take a scalpel to people so they can cater to the health "insurance" industry and spend their career jumping through those flaming hoops of bureaucracy and green tape... all in an effort to save a multi-bilion dollar a year corporation from spending any of the free money they collect from people they dupe into thinking they have their best interests at heart... Sorry I kinda rambled there,.. I seem to have lost track of the "respect" part.. hmm oh it must be under this pile of money and greedy fat people. Yeah most doctors start their careers with the best of intentions (/snicker) but all of them eventually become a small cog in the wheel of "oh god liability! quick, dont don't do anything, maybe the problem will go away and die, and my career/WALLET will be safe.)
...and show no respect?? Money is not respect. Money buys false respect sure. But you seem to be confused, or your values are as screwed up as most of humanities so you haven't ever seen real respect. Money is a vile and stupid idea, and anyone who thinks it's somehow not is an idiot. Money didn't solve any of humanities complicated resource vs. availability problems in it's inception, it created all of them. How anyone doesn't see "Credit" as the icing on the retard cake is a complete mystery to me too.
Again a nice quick though that makes people looking for a simple answer satisfied, but not an actual certainty.
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I'm taking the time to answer all this, because I disagree with a lot of what you said in this post.
If a person has the mental capabilities to study a profession which gives him a lot of responsibility, there is a certain reward tied to that. This reward is because they spend years studying and because if they're good at their job, it's hard to replace them. Business executives are a different story, but companies are created to make the top richer, so it's logical they're a bunch of moneygrabbers.
Also, where I live anyone go to the University with a government loan.
Having a certain job or a certain income doesn't mean you should get respect. Being good at your job and having noble motives does. Being a good person and living by your code of honor does. Granted, these people are not that common. There are a lot of surgeons who don't earn my respect and there are some businessmen who do.
On the subject of money: let me first say I'm not charmed by your ad-hominem attack calling everyone who disagrees with you mentally challenged.
Now to refute your arguments: money is what allowed people to dedicate themselves to a certain task, for which they got something that represented a certain value, which they could then trade for anything of the same value. Therefore, they didn't have to have something that someone else happened to want and vice-versa in order to get what they needed.
It also made trade between communities easier, further speeding up the progress of civilization. Ultimately, it enabled a service based economy as we know it today, where you can be a doctor, a cop, a politician or a teacher, without producing anything yourself.
It is true that money has it's downsides in that it is easy to be hoarded by exploiting the poor and weak, but it can also be used to support them by providing care and credit to spend on food and other necessary resources, instead of their family/direct neighbours having to support them (and if those can't, the person who can't support himself being ****ed). Granted, I'm thankful to live in a country where the government does look after it's citizens.
I think that in the end, it has done more good than bad for humanity, unless your idea of utopia is to live in a primitive autarky and earn anything you'd ever need by doing your job to your ability. Alas, most humans are too lazy for this to work on a global scale.
Is that a real sentence?