[VaLkyR]Anubis;2167746 said:There is only one Antichrist...
Really? I mean I thought there were a lot of them.
[VaLkyR]Anubis;2167746 said:There is only one Antichrist...
Ok,if there are a lot of them,who says they are really antichrists.Just keep in mind,very often people can't accept other people's opinions and so on and what is the result,intolerance,they have no idea what they are talking at the end.Really? I mean I thought there were a lot of them.
[VaLkyR]Anubis;2167753 said:Ok,if there are a lot of them,who says they are really antichrists.Just keep in mind,very often people can't accept other people's opinions and so on and what is the result,intolerance,they have no idea what they are talking at the end.
The gang of 10 is a complete sham in my opinion. First you have to convince Pelosi to bring the bill to the floor in the first place. Then you have to battle parties on both sides doing everything they can to sabotage the bill. Based on what I've read about what is in the bill, it's destined to fail.
The area of offshore drilling off Flordia will be a particularly contentious issue. Some will fight to make certain that Flordia has the final say as to if the drilling is actually allowed. Any drilling provisions gained in the bill would be nullified by Flordia, and since California and ANWAR aren't on the bill it won't lead to any new drilling. Republicans will be forced to vote no, and the Democrats will then try to use it to say "see Republicans are voting against energy reform!"
Lol, I'm sorry but one could argue that Jesus of all people was not the most tolerant person to ever exist. And Luv Studd, what is the solution? Offshore drilling could and would happen off the shore of Florida, TWD is just kidding himself.
Make SUV's obsolete; they are a dinosaur that needs to die.
The market already has done this in large part. But what about a family of five or six? What kind of transportation are they going to use?
My question to that is what did families of that size do before these were huge in the 90s? Gas prices were cheaper, but yet they didn't drive SUVs. I know some had vans of some sorts etc. Mini-vans were popular in the late 80's and early 90's, ....
My question to that is what did families of that size do before these were huge in the 90s?
The answer to that is simple:
- almost all cars were GINORMOUS, easily seating that many people.
- car seats were not required by law meaning more kids can be stuffed into less car.
- bigger vehicles were still available (i.e. station wagons and vans)
That's because the plan is a Democratic giveaway. New production on offshore federal lands is left to state legislatures, and then in only four coastal states. The regulatory hurdles are huge. And the bill bars drilling within 50 miles of the coast -- putting off limits some of the most productive areas. Alaska's oil-rich Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is still a no-go.
The highlight is instead $84 billion in tax credits, subsidies and federal handouts for alternative fuels and renewables. The Gang of 10 intends to pay for all this in part by raising taxes on . . . oil companies! The Sierra Club couldn't have penned it better. And so the Republican Five has potentially given antidrilling Democrats the political cover they need to neutralize energy through November.
Pre-SUV era:
1977 Chevrolet Impala Station Wagon
http://www.carsurvey.org/review_110565.html
15-16 miles per gallon city, and 19-20 miles per gallon highway at 60-65 miles per hour.
1973 Chrysler New Yorker Station Wagon
http://users.penn.com/~mweimer/chrysler.html
15 to 16 mpg on the highway, and about 10 mpg in the city.
vs modern.
2008 Ford Explorer SUV
http://www.mpgbuddy.com/vehicle-profile/27021/2008-ford-explorer-2wd.html
City MPG: 14 Highway MPG: 20
or you could go Hybrid!
2008 GMC Yukon Hybrid SUV
http://www.mpgbuddy.com/vehicle-profile/27030/2008-gmc-c1500-yukon-hybrid-2wd.html
City MPG: 21 Highway MPG: 22
2008 Toyota Highlander Hybrid SUV 4WD
http://www.hybridsuv.com/toyota-highlander/2008-toyota-highlander-hybrid-reviews
City MPG: 27
Highway MPG: 25
2008 Dodge Caravan Minivan
http://www.mpgbuddy.com/vehicle-profile/26944/2008-dodge-caravan-2wd.html
City MPG: 16
Highway MPG: 23
Because you asked what families did before SUV's (see below). The 1980's Broncos were the real beginning of the modern SUV (though larger versions existed back into the 60's).You don't have to go that far back to find station wagons. Why not just compare modern minivans and SUVs of today? That way it is a more real comparison.
Anyhow, towing three kids around requires quite a bit of room and not even minvans always suffice. Four small children is almost an impossibility in anything that size or smaller, particularly if you want to retain any kind of storage space (luggage, groceries, etc). My original response was to point out why the SUV size of vehicle is needed by the modern family.My question to that is what did families of that size do before these were huge in the 90s? Gas prices were cheaper, but yet they didn't drive SUVs. I know some had vans of some sorts etc. Mini-vans were popular in the late 80's and early 90's, but had this "Man Hood Is Not Intact" stigma to them, hence the reason they compensated their ego short comings with buying such a stupidly huge car.
The market already has done this in large part. But what about a family of five or six? What kind of transportation are they going to use?
Simple - STAY HOME!
Wouldn't we be better off planning for alternatives to what is obviously a finite source of energy?
Drilling for oil offshore is not the solution and saying that we could be independent oil producers to sustain ourselves one day is ludicrous. It's all a scam, man. The pinheads of America will follow goose step to big oil and Republicans thinking that it's the answer.
My original response was to point out why the SUV size of vehicle is needed by the modern family.