Crotale, its OK buddy, you just got owned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. You're out. You're done. You're a terrible player. You whited out. Go to the Pokemon center.
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Crotale, its OK buddy, you just got owned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. You're out. You're done. You're a terrible player. You whited out. Go to the Pokemon center.
I see Geico, State Farm, Progressive and Allstate (just a few)competing over the best price on car insurance.
Would anyone like to explain why I don't see health insurance companies competing?
I would like somone who believes in the philosophy "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" to respond.
Would anyone like to explain why I don't see health insurance companies competing?
I would like somone who believes in the philosophy "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" to respond.
If you're truly interested in the answer to that question, I'd take a gander at John Goodman's blog. He was one of the original drafters of the Health Savings Account system and has testified before Congress about the healthcare reform bills floating around.
For those that like kool aid, I'd just avoid his blog altogether.
Fail. So much fail. You all fail.
In this bill, people have said that Americans are dumb for not wanting this, i.e., we had to be "dragged kicking and screaming" because our congress has "seen the light" or something. So that right there demonstrates that our current government is not accurately representing us, which would imply actions which are not very democratic. There's the answer to the "LOLCOMMUNISM" strawman.
Furthermore, it was also observed that America's economy is in the crapper, and we are deeply in debt, and will be for practically forever. This leads directly to the healthcare bollocks being a bad move. Whether or not it's set up the way you libbies want it. Massive gov. spending to add to the irreparable debt = indefinite debt payments for any remotely young American. You can't (or really shouldn't) pay for stuff with funds you don't, and will not in the immediate future, have. So fail.
And I didn't even address the issue of whether or not the socialist-esque approach is the right one, and I still gave two perfectly good reasons that this bill shouldn't go through.
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Finally, one of you "progressives" is honest about his philosophy. At least you should all admit to believing in this failed Marxist concept.
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I was hoping one would try to answer my question, I need something to laugh at.
No, It's been tried and failed many times. The free market / capitalism system has worked well for the US for a few hundred years and will continue to keep this country running.
Anyone who knows basic world history knows that Rome collapsed when it's people began relying on the government to give them everything they needed. They had no incentive to work because if they did it part of what they earned would be given to somone who did nothing.
On the health care topic: Congress has no Constitutional authority to force the people to buy anything. This bill is unconstitutional and will have to be repealed if it passes.
I see no problem with the government having a cheap heathcare option. That is what it would have to be, cheap, minimal coverage and does not tax anyone that does not sign up or gets coverage through work. Just something to keep you covered in case of some horrible accident while out of work.
http://forum.deviantart.com/community/politics/1399214/
My alarm clock is powered by batteries I bought at a privately owned and operated store. The store received those batteries via private transport after a privately owned and operated company manufactured them.
Most public utilities are privately owned and operated. I know it's a conundrum of sorts, but it is true nonetheless.
Provided by the municipal water utility via facilities and throughways built by private corporations under government contracts. I'm just sayin'...
Guess what? Those regulated channels are not OWNED AND OPERATED by the FCC. I'll give you a hint...private entities. Same goes for most of the satellites orbiting the planet.
Let me get this straight...the government controls WHEN you go to work?
The automobile you purchased and operate is not owned, manufactured or delivered to you by the government (unless you bought a GM or Chrysler product this this year).
What a crock. The government does not build roads. Contractors build roads. Let me ask, if you were to hire a contractor in to build you a home, after the job is complete, could you say that you built it? Hardly, as you only wrote the check. I know, I know, I hear all the time that the government built this, the government built that, but those statements are only correct if actual government workers built whatever it is that is claimed to be built by the government.
The government does not own and operate the fueling station.
The USPS is owned by the government but is operated by government employees and private contractors.
You got one partly right. I'll give you credit that educating the masses does have its benefits, but the public school system overall has been failing for decades. Considering the amount of monies spent of public education, the public is getting ripped off. In a socialistic medicine argument, I would refrain from using public schools as an proper example of a government run program.
Again with the idea that you are safe because of government regulation.
Only an idiot would believe that his travel is safe because the cops are doing their jobs, his house is safe from fire because the fire department is doing its job. Not to take away from the preventative efforts of policemen or firefighters, their primary tasks are to respond during or after an incident has occurred.
The vast majority of resources enabling your internet session are owned and operated by private entities, not the government. Same goes with all forms of media.
In the spirit of the original quote, the government already regulates our medicine (health care, coverage) and we see how well that has played out over the years. Take that statement however you will, for it speaks on so many levels.
Socialism is not derived from delivery of a few utilities or services, but is from a state-controlled system as primary deliverer of major services and goods. Considering that very few of the many federal, state and local government run programs show real success in their capabilities and fiscal responsibility should give one great pause in thinking of the government as a fix-all for social issues.
Why do Canadians feel they have a better idea of how the US should operate? Canada has about 12% the populace of the US. For that fact alone, Canadians have no clue how to provide control measures on such a scale.
My alarm clock is powered by batteries I bought at a privately owned and operated store. The store received those batteries via private transport after a privately owned and operated company manufactured them.
Most public utilities are privately owned and operated. I know it's a conundrum of sorts, but it is true nonetheless.
Provided by the municipal water utility via facilities and throughways built by private corporations under government contracts. I'm just sayin'...
Guess what? Those regulated channels are not OWNED AND OPERATED by the FCC. I'll give you a hint...private entities. Same goes for most of the satellites orbiting the planet.
Let me get this straight...the government controls WHEN you go to work?
The automobile you purchased and operate is not owned, manufactured or delivered to you by the government (unless you bought a GM or Chrysler product this this year).
What a crock. The government does not build roads. Contractors build roads. Let me ask, if you were to hire a contractor in to build you a home, after the job is complete, could you say that you built it? Hardly, as you only wrote the check. I know, I know, I hear all the time that the government built this, the government built that, but those statements are only correct if actual government workers built whatever it is that is claimed to be built by the government.
The government does not own and operate the fueling station.
The USPS is owned by the government but is operated by government employees and private contractors.
You got one partly right. I'll give you credit that educating the masses does have its benefits, but the public school system overall has been failing for decades. Considering the amount of monies spent of public education, the public is getting ripped off. In a socialistic medicine argument, I would refrain from using public schools as an proper example of a government run program.
Again with the idea that you are safe because of government regulation.
Only an idiot would believe that his travel is safe because the cops are doing their jobs, his house is safe from fire because the fire department is doing its job. Not to take away from the preventative efforts of policemen or firefighters, their primary tasks are to respond during or after an incident has occurred.
The vast majority of resources enabling your internet session are owned and operated by private entities, not the government. Same goes with all forms of media.
In the spirit of the original quote, the government already regulates our medicine (health care, coverage) and we see how well that has played out over the years. Take that statement however you will, for it speaks on so many levels.
Socialism is not derived from delivery of a few utilities or services, but is from a state-controlled system as primary deliverer of major services and goods. Considering that very few of the many federal, state and local government run programs show real success in their capabilities and fiscal responsibility should give one great pause in thinking of the government as a fix-all for social issues.
Why do Canadians feel they have a better idea of how the US should operate? Canada has about 12% the populace of the US. For that fact alone, Canadians have no clue how to provide control measures on such a scale.
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Did you have a choice of Duracell, Energizer, Rayovac, sanyo batteries?
or only one option?
I like many options, I prefer Duracell over any other.
Lets hope there isn't a battery reform, leaving us with the option of GE brand or none.
I usually do too, but sometimes I get cheapo's for my kids' toys that they always leave on and drain the battery after one use.
omg govment HC is Duracell and you want rayovacs in granny's pacemaker!
Actually I think he means the government paid for the road. I've never seen a Gman working on a road. Everything the government does is done by contract of course.
So I think some of your logic is failed in this sense. The only thing the government does is regulate things and jibba jabba in mettings.
Otherwise you are saying that roads are private and owned by coporations. If that were true, the roads around here would probably be alot worse than they are.
maybe he is actually talking about the inspection and codes inforced upon building the house, is part of the reason why the house didn't burn down while he was at work. The fire department has nothing to do with this. They only get there to put the fire out, not prevent it. That would be the fire marshall and code inspector (government contracted peoples) job during construction to make sure the wires aren't just hanging around and exposed.
Or did I misunderstand you?
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I think the point is that every time the government wants roads put in, they have private companies put them in. Heck, there is a whole private industry here in my state set up around road construction that the state pays for. It's still private business.
That's making the assumption that, without the regulations, nobody would build a safe building, which is obviously problematic. Some buildings that were built before all the codes and regulations were instituted are still standing and were simply updated to comply.
You realize you're making his point for him, right? Doctor's offices and hospitals would still be private businesses; only they would be paid through government funds. A system you just defended.
~Jason
You realize you're making his point for him, right? Doctor's offices and hospitals would still be private businesses; only they would be paid through government funds. A system you just defended.
~Jason
ZING!
sigh....
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some of them are from property taxes and some have tolls. ZING!
omg the feds make roads too!
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some of them are from property taxes and some have tolls. ZING!
omg the feds make roads too!
they're called interstate highways
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It is not indicative that the fix would be step in a positive going direction for most Americans. Besides, funds that pay or these roads stems from all levels of government: federal, state, county and city taxes. Most of our nation's roadways are built and paid for by state and local taxes. Interstate highways do receive federal funding because of their unique purpose.You realize you're making his point for him, right? Doctor's offices and hospitals would still be private businesses; only they would be paid through government funds. A system you just defended.
~Jason
Likening this to government paid for health care, the best scenario would be for each state to sponsor its own system and leave the federal government to oversee the entire affair and provide regulation to ensure portability of coverage.
Why do we need the federal government to control (if it is paying for it, it means it has control over your coverage, same as insurance companies) our health care, since this will give the govt control over an entire industry that is almost 17% of our GPD?
