UT AI

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Lostsoul

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Is it just me, or does it seem that the AI has gotten worse with each game in the series?

I decided to install UT3 again and give it another shot after the patches. having been so long, I figured I should play through the "story" to get back in to the feel of an FPS. Now I am stuck on Torlan Delta with team mates that will only get in the Leviathen. I am stuck and not sure what to do about it.
 

GreatEmerald

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Jan 20, 2008
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Bots didn't get stuck in the Leviathen in the first UT?

UT1 didn't have them :D

But yea, AI isn't all that great. It would be great if it could utilise those roles you see in the menu for Warfare, though. And, of course, most mappers really don't want to be bothered with correct bot pathing (example: Kargo, if a bot jumps down near the Goliath, it may loop forever trying to figure out where's the exit).
 

UBerserker

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Jan 20, 2008
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Not in DM. No, not in DM at all. I had tougher times in UT3.

All the UT's AI have been crap and still will be crap, to be honest. Bunch of aimbots using retarded/cheap strategies.
 
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GreatEmerald

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UT1 bots do a very poor job in outdoor areas, because they strictly follow reachspecs, without any strafing. Looks really weird when you have one straight path and a few others, all bots will go in line using the straight path. Headhunting ;)
 

Cobra

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Not in DM. No, not in DM at all. I had tougher times in UT3.

All the UT's AI have been crap and still will be crap, to be honest. Bunch of aimbots using retarded/cheap strategies.


No No, I don't know what is the setting of your bots dude. But In UT3 they seam to be retarded. Simply specta: some of the original maps that epic has send us. And then compare some of the UT99 maps that epic has send us. It is like day and night. The way that the bots play

That is the reason why I play UT3 once in a blue moon. The game play is crap.


But I'm not here to argue, if you like the UT3 bots better, good for you have fun whit them
 
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Cobra

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only the skaarj in Ut where any good they always jumped around never got to hit them with my sniper rifle



on your setting in UT99, put jumping behavior on. beserk on. And all the rest.

Try a death macth, only at masterful, then do the same in UT3.

If you play strait, no mut and so on. In UT3 you will be the first, but in UT99 I don't think that you will finish first. If so it will be on a much narow gap.


Well of corse do has you like, that's all
 
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Leo(T.C.K.)

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I went back playing UT for a bit and the bots in UT3 seem better for me and the gameplay is more fun and more fast paced and feels right.

UT had just overpowered Unreal weapons and that was about it....plus their look and of the game was very generic...I don't wanna sound harsh, but all this UT praising is kinda...out of place...UT is worse than Unreal, in its release it was very very bland and had very generic models, the bonuspacks and console versions fixed that, still I wish someone converted all the PS2 characters, they were all skeletal ones too.

It is just like Doom2 or Quake2 comparing to Doom or Quake.
Both were kinda bland compared to previous games and the level design was not that great.

UT was meant to be botpack addon for Unreal first though and it is multiplayer oriented, but still it kinda holds true.

I mean omg, the first UT is best and without bugs or anything (that is what the fanboys keep saying, or even forget about Unreal and play Unreal campaign or custom maps meant for Unreal on UT, even if it breaks things sometimes and does not feel same and then say they support Unreal, like UnrealSP and such sites)....oh my god how false is that statement, the netcode wasn't all that great, online there were many bugs like AI seeing through movers and such stupidities, while in Unreal this was never case.

Well, times when I played on godlike are gone, I cannot be that good against these bots now in original UT. But UT3 is more fun that way, it is not frustrating and not boring like UT can get.

UT even feels kinda slow paced and unbalanced compared to hardcore Unreal DM.

But yes UT is made to appeal to more people, it was kinda a trick by Epic that way...so they get what they want, but the value of the game is much lower for me than Unreal and it is really very generic if you look back. It is not bad though, but it is bland.
 
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Raynor.Z

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You people compare UT3 AI to UT. :rolleyes: That's two generations ahead and it would be weird if it turns out to be worse. UT bots still kick a lot of asses if you crank their skill level up to godlike and make some minor customizations. UT AI is usally a lot better when compared to some other generic MP bots even in todays standards.
 

Lostsoul

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You people compare UT3 AI to UT. :rolleyes: That's two generations ahead and it would be weird if it turns out to be worse. UT bots still kick a lot of asses if you crank their skill level up to godlike and make some minor customizations. UT AI is usally a lot better when compared to some other generic MP bots even in todays standards.

It is weird, but I was far happier playing UT 99's bots than I am playing UT3 bots. Bot AI is not visual, so it must not have been a concern.

Eraser bot for Q2 is still one of my fav's.

UT3 AI is crap, that's why you play online. I still don't understand why there are so many people here that play offline.

Read my first post and maybe you can see why. I could poke fun at UT3 player counts by saying at least when I play offline, I have a zero ping vs online when I play on servers with bots I ping 90

btw, i just used god mode to get past that stupid map.
 
Dec 2, 2008
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The AI damage scaling in UT is ridiculous, godlike bots do like 50% more damage but below skilled they do like 20% less damage.
UT3 AI isn't as annoying to me because they don't do more damage above adept, but they do less below it.