Why are achievements important,really? Surely you can perfectly enjoy a game without the need for any "achievements"?
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Some people just want something to show for the hours they used up on the game.
Though I do find games perfectly enjoyable without the achievements. They're just there as extra meta-game.
Though I do find games perfectly enjoyable without the achievements. They're just there as extra meta-game.
I might still get it, but I won't play it much. Lots of developers recently have said that they make far more money by selling exclusively on Steam than they lose. Alternatively, let's have Epic make two versiona of the game, one with all the Steamworks features and one with no DRM using Gamespy for the multiplayer integration. We'll see which one is more popular.
Because they add another layer of fun things you can do, for the most part. You don't NEED achievements, per se. But it is always nice to have them.
Alternatively, let's have Epic make two versiona of the game, one with all the Steamworks features and one with no DRM using Gamespy for the multiplayer integration. We'll see which one is more popular.
How about a single version of the game which integrates with Steam only if you have that installed? And why would they use GameSpy to begin with... UT2004 and previous didn't use that kind of middleware.
That said, Steam integration would be a good thing once Valve releases Steam for Linux, as perhaps that way Epic will consider a Linux version of the game, too.
The point is they will never do it because it would break the community up into smaller pieces and that would be bad for the game. Also, they wouldn't be able to take full advantage of the platform and, frankly, that is an overall bad thing.
Also, with UT2004 and previous, the only thing Epic ever provided was a master server and a few dedicated servers to play on. Their stats collection was really awful and didn't work half the time and required you to play on servers with stats tracking enabled by the server admin. And their master servers don't support 1/4th of what Steam does. Also consider that the master servers were controlled by none other than Gamespy.
So to get somewhat feature parity, they would basically have to develop their whole system from the ground up again. So, consider, after all the suggestions they received for UT3 community features, why they ended up using the horrible Gamespy middleware.
Yeah, they aren't going to build their own solution.
So the question becomes, what would you rather? Gamespy? GFWL? Steam? Or no multiplayer? In addition there is zero chance of getting zero DRM, so what would you rather? SecuROM? GFWL? Steam?
Tribes: Ascend has both a standalone client and Steam integration. It's not like the two have to be completely mutually exclusive; at the end of the day all that's happening is you're being redirected to a server.
Who cares about if it uses GFWL or Steamworks...
Will it be fun to play? I really like the concept behind it, but it seems like it will get really stale once people figure out the best "builds" to keep monsters from destroying their forts. Epic is going to have to make some pretty dynamic enemy types and randomization for this to have any real replay value.
Its kind of how Left 4 Dead is boring once you figure out the best way to run through a level.
Will it be fun to play? I really like the concept behind it, but it seems like it will get really stale once people figure out the best "builds" to keep monsters from destroying their forts. Epic is going to have to make some pretty dynamic enemy types and randomization for this to have any real replay value.
Its kind of how Left 4 Dead is boring once you figure out the best way to run through a level.
But Tribes still uses a third party authentication system and client and really offers none of the benefits of Steamworks integration. It's just available on Steam.
And you and I both know that Epic is never going to build a multiplayer middleware that is worth beans.
And Fullbleed, GFWL is god awful, especially for multiplayer games.
Yeah, I think this is confirmation that Epic doesn't want to touch Unreal for a very long time for fear of messing it up again. Business wise, this is a very smart decision to me. I notice how they seem to be avoiding the pitfalls that UT3 fell into. Some examples being that UT3 had high system requirements for its time and the general gritty dark feeling in it that most people didn't like for one reason or another, not to mention the massive consolitis it was suffering from. All of these, major reasons why UT3 didn't take off and thankfully avoided with Fortnite.
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This game is going to be boring as shit guys who cares if it uses GFWL.
Its taking two boring games "Left 4 Dead" and Minecraft, and smashing them together. I'm surprised Cliffy B is involved in the project at all because I don't get a "Nattie Ice" or "college date rape" vibe from this game at all like I do Gears.
Its taking two boring games "Left 4 Dead" and Minecraft, and smashing them together. I'm surprised Cliffy B is involved in the project at all because I don't get a "Nattie Ice" or "college date rape" vibe from this game at all like I do Gears.
your opinion is valid because you bash two very popular games at once. the internet is proud of you.