Well I geuss we disagree then. You say:
"True, and that's precisely why it should be legalized! If someone could get X amount of crack for 10$, legally and safely, why would they risk getting arrested for buying the same amount of crack, though contaminated with lots of nasty shit that can fuck up/kill him, for 3 times as much? Less break-ins and prostitution for drug money, less business for the smugglers, more money and jobs for the US. Yes, people then could legally fuck up their own minds/bodies, but they already could with tobacco and alchohol, and the harder stuff being illegal didn't exactly stop anything."
Lets talk the facts here. In Nevada, prostitution is legal. It costs much much more to see a 'liscenced' hooker than one on the street. The women make less working in a brothel than the street and prostitution has far from dissapeared in Nevada. Or take Amsterdam. The sale of legalized drugs has not stopped people from selling hash illegally, (or rolling dog shit in oregano) nor harder drugs. - Theres always going to be someone that wants to make money selling drugs illegally, regardless of legalization, (which honestly for softer drugs I favor) becuase I think they will be able to charge less for it than Uncle Sam. Why? Case in point - People still to this day drive truckloads of cigarettes from North Carolina all over the US to avoid the taxation that comes along with it, and they sell the cigarettes for less. Same thing with booze. Theres no reason to think that anyone would do anything different if drugs were legalized. The reason that were not going to see harder drugs legalized is this: No American is going to endorse risking their 18-21 year old kid having direct access to hard drugs. Now this is hypocritical, as when I was 14 I knew how and where to get all sorts of drugs, as most kids do. Also People wont want to endorse that like alcohol, crack or PCP is OK to experiment with and is socially acceptable; marijuana maybe, but but even that stretches it.
The nature of drug abuse is addiction. So even supposing that all drugs were legalized, an addict is at some point going to run out of funds, and make quick cash by doing crimes. As nice as the Ronald Reagan brand of crack is, the government isnt going to give it away to Mr(s). Crackhead, and that person is going to get funds any way they can. Nothing changes; Uncle Sam becomes the guy that slings dope rather an individual.
To be honest saying that drug use is victimless is as foolish as saying that prositution, or gambling is victimless. People do things in addiction that they would never do sober, and victims are what they make of others. Let me be clear, here. This does not mean that they are not responsible for their actions. Again. This does not mean that they are not responsible for their actions. In my career I have had the disctinct dipleasure to see people put their own childrens hands in hot oil, prostitute their children, starve their children and yes, kill their children, directly as a result of drug addiction. These are human beings who before they were addicts were good parents, able to hold steady jobs, make an income and love their kids. Now you want to tell me that the kid whos forearms and fingers look like taffy is not a victim? The 11 year old that was raped multiple times by a john while the mom sat in the next room is not a victim? That is the point blank fallout of drug abuse, and I dont care how much of a liberatrian you are, if you think that even 1 child harmed in any manner as a result of drug abuse is acceptable for total drug legalisation, then I am to say the least, at a loss for words.
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"True, and that's precisely why it should be legalized! If someone could get X amount of crack for 10$, legally and safely, why would they risk getting arrested for buying the same amount of crack, though contaminated with lots of nasty shit that can fuck up/kill him, for 3 times as much? Less break-ins and prostitution for drug money, less business for the smugglers, more money and jobs for the US. Yes, people then could legally fuck up their own minds/bodies, but they already could with tobacco and alchohol, and the harder stuff being illegal didn't exactly stop anything."
Lets talk the facts here. In Nevada, prostitution is legal. It costs much much more to see a 'liscenced' hooker than one on the street. The women make less working in a brothel than the street and prostitution has far from dissapeared in Nevada. Or take Amsterdam. The sale of legalized drugs has not stopped people from selling hash illegally, (or rolling dog shit in oregano) nor harder drugs. - Theres always going to be someone that wants to make money selling drugs illegally, regardless of legalization, (which honestly for softer drugs I favor) becuase I think they will be able to charge less for it than Uncle Sam. Why? Case in point - People still to this day drive truckloads of cigarettes from North Carolina all over the US to avoid the taxation that comes along with it, and they sell the cigarettes for less. Same thing with booze. Theres no reason to think that anyone would do anything different if drugs were legalized. The reason that were not going to see harder drugs legalized is this: No American is going to endorse risking their 18-21 year old kid having direct access to hard drugs. Now this is hypocritical, as when I was 14 I knew how and where to get all sorts of drugs, as most kids do. Also People wont want to endorse that like alcohol, crack or PCP is OK to experiment with and is socially acceptable; marijuana maybe, but but even that stretches it.
The nature of drug abuse is addiction. So even supposing that all drugs were legalized, an addict is at some point going to run out of funds, and make quick cash by doing crimes. As nice as the Ronald Reagan brand of crack is, the government isnt going to give it away to Mr(s). Crackhead, and that person is going to get funds any way they can. Nothing changes; Uncle Sam becomes the guy that slings dope rather an individual.
To be honest saying that drug use is victimless is as foolish as saying that prositution, or gambling is victimless. People do things in addiction that they would never do sober, and victims are what they make of others. Let me be clear, here. This does not mean that they are not responsible for their actions. Again. This does not mean that they are not responsible for their actions. In my career I have had the disctinct dipleasure to see people put their own childrens hands in hot oil, prostitute their children, starve their children and yes, kill their children, directly as a result of drug addiction. These are human beings who before they were addicts were good parents, able to hold steady jobs, make an income and love their kids. Now you want to tell me that the kid whos forearms and fingers look like taffy is not a victim? The 11 year old that was raped multiple times by a john while the mom sat in the next room is not a victim? That is the point blank fallout of drug abuse, and I dont care how much of a liberatrian you are, if you think that even 1 child harmed in any manner as a result of drug abuse is acceptable for total drug legalisation, then I am to say the least, at a loss for words.
CC
RealMaps Site Co-Founder/Coordinator
Want to be an Infiltrator? Get the goods at:
http://www.planetunreal.com/realmaps/
"Fall seven times, stand up eight." - Japanese Proverb
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