The Soccer Moms have done it again.

[Keiichi]

I just read this article - http://live.altavista.com/scripts/editorial.dll?ei=2225144&ern=y. It never ceases to amaze me how these senators think that everyone under the age of 18 needs to be "protected" from the real world. Through all these debates, have any of them ever thought to ask the children what they think? Oh, I forgot. Children don't know what's best for them, but some senator in Washington D.C. does. Here are some interesting quotes from the article:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Testifying before the Senate Commerce Committee, Mel Harris, president of Sony, parent company of Columbia Picture, called efforts to advertise a violent PG-13 film before the younger audience "a judgment lapse.'' The film was "The Fifth Element,'' an action science fiction story starring Bruce Willis.[/quote]

A violent PG-13 film? If they were trying to market R-rated films to minors, then I could see the problem, but PG-13 films are only one step up from G. That's kids stuff. Besides, from what I remember of The Fifth Element, I thought it was a little too juvinile for my tastes. I guess seeing Bruce Willis shoot a guy in a rediculous alien costume is going to permanently warp some kid's fragile, innocent little mind.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A study being released Wednesday by the conservative Parents Television Council found that of 54 movie ads aired on broadcast TV during 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. -- the so-called family hour -- 83 percent were for R-rated films. The sample was taken from Sept. 1 to Sept. 20 this year.[/quote]

Since when is 8:00-9:00PM considered the "family hour"? I don't know of any shows on at that time that would interest anyone not mature enough to handle an R-rated movie advertisment.

-Keiichi

http://www.geocities.com/morisato_81/

 

[MiscMan]

True. I agree.

To add to this i find it amazing that violence in movies is so incredibly inaccurate. I mean, for a while i thought that you could run around with akimbo uzis and waste nameless terrorists. Not true at all. I say show kids some of the real stuff, say in school. Then they (we) can see just a little bit of what really happens instead of hollywoodized crap.

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-MiscMan

If we are all already dead, what is the point of murder?
TACO

 

[Zundfolge]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> A study being released Wednesday by the conservative Parents Television Council found...[/quote]

On a side note, there's one of those subtle bits of media bias. You never hear anything like "The Liberal Handgun Control Inc..., or The Liberal Southern Poverty Law Center..." from the media.

Believe me, there are just as many liberals who want to revoke the 1st ammendment as the media claims conservatives do (hell, I'd go so far as to say liberals are MORE of a threat to our civil liberties).

 

[Katton]

Think about it.

I can drive a car, but I can't watch Army of Darkness at my local rerun theatre.
To me, that is just stupid.
(plus, I really want to see that movie in the theatre...)

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"You can run, but you'll only die tired."

 

[Galaddin]

Hehe, flashing my college card can get me into movies for ages 18 and above here... (R-rated movies are banned here or censored until they're rated 'G' then rated as 18-SX) btw, I'm curious, what's the rating on saving private ryan?

It is impossible for the glass to be half full or half empty for you see: there is no glass

 

[Doccers]

SPR

R. There was even a web site that posted a review on saving private ryan, bashing it into having needless violence and swearing.

Yay liberals.

I wanna be an elven ranger, I want a life that's full of danger,

 

[jaunty]

Saving ryans privates was rated MA15+ out here, which basically means, no one under 15 without someone over 15 holding their hand

FUCK SYMPATHY! i dont need fucking sympathy! i need my fucking johnson! - The Dude <img src=http://geocities.com/r337m0nk3y/cwm/killtard.gif>

 

[mp*lennon]

http://www.capalert.com/

 

[Goat Fucker]

Hell...i´ve been watching horror and action movies since i was just a wee kidster, and the only inocent bystanders i have killed are Nali´s and HL sientists.*EG*

How the hell can they even think that children would grow up warped, just by watching such movies (or playing such games for that matter).
Have they forgotten that they themselves were kids too, and that they at those ageés were wery cabable of telling the diference between fiction and reality, and right from wrong??

 

[MP*Beretta]

Comment For The Day

The world would be a better place if people were allowed to be honest. Here's the way I'm thinkin' (stereotypes are used for the purpose of explaination):

People smoke pot. No, really, they do. On a massive scale. So let's not be hypocrits - make it legal and be done with it.

People are perverse. At least males, and some wonderful women I've had the privilage of `meeting'. They like the idea of finding new and interesting holes to stick their thingies in and jiggle them about. In the absence of available holes, rape happens. Let's legalize and endorse pr0n and prostitution, and watch the sex crime rate drop.

People are violent. We're genetically hunter-gatherer types, and so our little caveman brains are happier if we're up to our elbows in blood and guts. This metaphor doesn't work terribly well in the inner city, so violent crime happens. Let's have more violent games, often, and - what the hell - teach our children to hunt, kill and clean their own food where possible. Again, watch the violent crime rate drop.

I believe that anyone who doesn't agree at least to some extent with the above generalizations is supressing their natural urges. I'll look forward to seeing you mow down some kids at McDonalds when you can hold it in no longer.

Embrace hedonism! Remember - incidents like Columbine are the result of (a) the above and (b) a massive population, which of course will have defects.

Oh, by the way, there's a catch. With all that responsibility you'd be `given back' by the government of the above were allowed, there are consequences. With no more victimless `crimes' observed by the system, there can be no more petty punishments. Death/banishment will take care of those who can't get it together even after they are finally allowed an outlet for their impulses.

Have a nice day!

 

[DeadeyeDan[ToA]]

*applauds*

Well said.

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Shot the landlords, who knew it was mine,
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[Keiichi]

I remember all those scientific reports on the effects of violent video games and movies on children. They did all their tests on children who had just finished playing a violent game, and were shocked to discover that they did, in fact, appear more violent. All I can say is "NO SHIT, SHERLOCK". Of course their going to be more violent. It's called adrenaline. It wears off after a few minutes. I think some people need to worry a little more about their own children, and less about everyone else's. Most of these "concerned" parents spend more time bitching to congress than they do at home, watching their kids, where they should be. Unfortunately, most parents just "don't have the time" or "can't be bothered" to supervise their children, and instead rely on television and video games to keep them busy while they're away. They want other people to raise their children for them, because they don't want to.

-Keiichi

http://www.geocities.com/morisato_81/

 

[deathren]

..

If i were going to mow anyone down at McDonalds (Yeah, right, like I would..)
It would be those stupid employees. No offence to those of you eho ARE Mcdonalds employees.

Demonshadow was here.

 

[deathren]

Jeez

I mean, Diablo And Unreal are my two favorate games, and do i go around crucifying people? NO!
Do i go around Drawing Pentegrams on the walls? NO!


And also, I was playing a Nintendo game called jet force Gemeni, and it is very bloody, if you kill an alien and green blood rains down! But thats OK Because it is ALIEN gore...Does this make any sense to you ???? GORE IS GORE! AND GORE IN COMPUTER GAMES IS FINE! IT IS A BUNCH OF PIXELS AND POLYGONS AND CRAP LIKE THAT!

Demonshadow was here.

 

[deathren]

And parents are worrird about violence...

SO THEY SEND THEM TO SCHOOL! Jeesus, you don't learn any damned scocial skills on the playground, Where I went to school, We learned to SURVIVE on the playground!


AND THEN they say, "cant play that game called "Blow the living shit out of them" Because it is to voilent!"


And then it is the bad word crap, IT IS A SOUND!!! IF I SAUD FUCK YOU IN CHINEESE TO SOMEONE WHO DIDNT KNOW CHINEESE, WOULD THEY CARE?!?!?!?! NO!


This has been a rant. I feel much better now.

By the way, Ive seen plenty of blood, Once i saw this car wreck, it was sick, the people were all mangled and stuff, now can a parent dsay, "ON NO! You have to stop bleeding and dying, mr. Mangled, It is too VIOLENT for my son to see" (It is gross, but I mean good god!)

and what is 18-SX?

Demonshadow was here.

[This message was edited by Deathren Demonshadow on Sep 29, 2000 at 02:38.]

 

[jaunty]

if they were really worried about violence they'd prolly wanna stop hitting their kids too, and i learned how to reload an auto handgun in school, not some bullshit hollywood movie

FUCK SYMPATHY! i dont need fucking sympathy! i need my fucking johnson! - The Dude <img src=http://geocities.com/r337m0nk3y/cwm/killtard.gif>

 

[jaunty]

i think thissuits this discussion very well

FUCK SYMPATHY! i dont need fucking sympathy! i need my fucking johnson! - The Dude <img src=http://geocities.com/r337m0nk3y/cwm/killtard.gif>

 

[jaunty]

AMEN BROTHER DETHREN !!!

that game pisses more blood than most i've seen, with the possible exception of AvP, and in my mind its marketed at kids, i dont know anyone over the age of 12 who'd even play it but i can't watch TV between the hours of 5:30pm and 8:30pm because my 9yr old brother is playing JFG

thos soccer mums can bitch and whinge all they want but when it comes down to it, we'll be the ones laughing when they're locked up in nursing homes and not released to lay the slippers into congressmen/senators/woteva u call them wherever any of u are from.

i saw the oh-so-awesome movie "Predator 2" (better than the first) when i was 9 years old, but i didn't run around throwing frisbies at people hoping it would cut them in half... these movies dont warp people, maybe the odd clinically skitzophrenic mind here and there, but for the other 98% of us games/movies do not repeat *NOT* wapr people or turn them into psycopaths,

the only people that go on rampages after seeing movies/playing games were psycopath BEFORE they saw/played the move/game

FUCK SYMPATHY! i dont need fucking sympathy! i need my fucking johnson! - The Dude <img src=http://geocities.com/r337m0nk3y/cwm/killtard.gif>

[This message was edited by jaunty on Sep 29, 2000 at 04:44.]

 

[Zundfolge]

So what's next, we gonna ban racing games too?

I don't know about you guys but after some NFS-PU I feel like jumping in the P-Wagon and driving fast.

So do I get to blame EA if I get in a wreck? or is mama government gonna save me from myself and not let me own the game? (I do think eventualy they may want to take the Porsche too)

Remember cars kill a significantly higher number of people in the US then Guns EVER could (short of a second civil war).

 

[Galaddin]

Don't you know?
Racing games encourage unsafe driving. They are the number 1 cause of accidents in the States... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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