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That was heavy. Especially, when you see who posted responses. I myself have had very limited exposer with any DoA members. I am not sure if we should join in the ban of all DoA members. I not sure if they even play on our server. I suppose we could be like Switzerland adn stay nuetral. But, what ever the leadership decides I will support it.
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There is more here and is a very busy thread: http://ladder.iglnet.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=17117
I will also accept any decision the council will take.
I will also accept any decision the council will take.
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This is certainly not new. I've known about it for a while (DoA bashing), and it seems most of it is deserved. Think of anything bad you can do in the UT community, and DoA has probably done it (and most likely more than what you can think of). However, I will say that Liquid and Xenon seem to be the main offenders, but since they are high ranking members of the clan, then the enitre clan -should- be judged on their actions. I would suggest the members that don't do anything wrong leave that clan and look for something better (which is just about anything). But like BT said, look at who has posted, and you get an idea that this isn't idle banter.
The Clan Leadership Council has a similar thread going over at instagiber.com, Steel is correct Liquid & Xenan are the leaders and usually the ones doing the wrong doing. This has been going on for some time and it seems the pot shas just boiled over. Most of the clans have decided to Rest their teams on IGL as a protest. I think instead of resting they should not challenge DOA and when challenged by DOA just forfeit instead of accept. DOA had to be held responsible for their actions, after all if we caught BLT using a ringer wouldn't we cry foul.. ANyway stay tuned for further info..
I don't know anyone from DOA well enough to stand @ either end of the debate... and of the things I've had time to read about, I've never come across any of the like... so I couldn't say that these things have happened to me.
S'matter of fact... I've rarely played against or with DOA that I haven't done well, and I never noticed anything that I could consider cheating.
I do not dispute the claims of others, but I would not condemn DOA either... not without proof.
If our leaders decide to join with the ban on DOA, then I will support our leaders and our clan. I will stand for «BuA» before any other clan.
This does not mean that I will stop playing with DOA members, nor does it mean I will avoid DOA's server.
Until adequate proof is brought forth that DOA has done the things that they are blamed for, I don't think it's right to ostracize them.
S'matter of fact... I've rarely played against or with DOA that I haven't done well, and I never noticed anything that I could consider cheating.
I do not dispute the claims of others, but I would not condemn DOA either... not without proof.
If our leaders decide to join with the ban on DOA, then I will support our leaders and our clan. I will stand for «BuA» before any other clan.
This does not mean that I will stop playing with DOA members, nor does it mean I will avoid DOA's server.
Until adequate proof is brought forth that DOA has done the things that they are blamed for, I don't think it's right to ostracize them.
IMO.
Bonecrusher
Make choices, don't look back...
I honestly don't think there will be much more time to play with Doa people besides on their server...since everyone is banning them.