Remove the DE .50 from GD, please.

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It's not realistic. It's not designed with realism in mind. It was UN goofing off. With it on the servers, it sucks realism from the game whenever UN plays with it. It's more accurate Than many of the SMGs in game, and does more damage against an armored target than the assault rifles. The .357 is bad enough. I ask that Odie and any server admin not put it on their server.
 

Crowze

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I'll second that. Although I respect what UN was trying to do with it, I don't think it has a place in inf, for reasons stated above. Although to be honest I hadn't noticed anyone using it, but I've not played any pistols-only games for a while.
 
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UN uses it all the time.
The sights are mis-aligned. The bullet shoots at about the middle and just to the right of the front post, near as I can tell, and there is no bullet drop at 100M+

Edit:
Against an armored target, the DE does 60 damage. 2 shots to kill. The M16A2
does 45 damage:3 shots to kill.
 
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frenchfrog

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First, GD is running random damage, this mean that any gun could almost be a 1 shot kill. Also, for what de50 have in fire power it miss in stability (compare to 1911), in rate of fire (compare to M9 that have twice the ROF) and clip size (compare to almost every other pistols) the only point I'm not sure of it's the bullet drops compare to de357. Another point of comparaison could be his weigth but compare it with the m93r (that have 20 round clip and burst mode) and the new uzis and it seems fair. All in all I think it's a balanced and fun weapon to used especialy with the chrome skin :D
 

Vahlemon

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Demosthanese said:
Against an armored target, the DE does 60 damage. 2 shots to kill. The M16A2
does 45 damage:3 shots to kill.


Errrrm, wrong file version maybe?

i know there was one that did full damage even against armor, but thats no longer true, there is now a version which takes armor in consideration
 

{GD}Ghost

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Regardless of the pistol that UN uses, I think you're gonna be in serious trouble. And for the record, UN mostly uses the SOCOM. I don't often see or hear anyone using any version of the DE. I, personally wouldn't care one way or another if it was removed or not as I dont' use it, but I don't think its a serious issue.
 
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frenchfrog said:
First, GD is running random damage, this mean that any gun could almost be a 1 shot kill. Also, for what de50 have in fire power it miss in stability (compare to 1911), in rate of fire (compare to M9 that have twice the ROF) and clip size (compare to almost every other pistols) the only point I'm not sure of it's the bullet drops compare to de357. Another point of comparaison could be his weigth but compare it with the m93r (that have 20 round clip and burst mode) and the new uzis and it seems fair. All in all I think it's a balanced and fun weapon to used especialy with the chrome skin :D

First, I tested it off line without randomdamage. .50ACP sucks against body
armor. What it lacks in stabilitiy, it makes up for in accuracy. Why on earth
would the DE .50 be the most accurate weapon in the game? The point is not
ballance damnit! It's realism.

No matter who usses it, I shouldn't die while exchanging fire against a pistol at 100m
 

Taque

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Unfortunately, a large chunk of this game IS balance ... you can ask the team about that. I mean bulk is a factor that reflects that aspect of the game, let alone other aspects which the team included (which, to be honest, I am not entirely clear about).
 

frenchfrog

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The blasphemy word is back. I won't go in any endless argumentations about realism/balance issues.

Anyway, what is the points of going after de50 right now? Some people got their ass blown by a de50? There probably 5 people in the entire INF community using de50. If some people got own by someone using a pistol, so be it. The de50 guy, is skilled, and would have owned them twice as much if it used a rifle or a smg.
 

geogob

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frenchfrog said:
The blasphemy word is back. I won't go in any endless argumentations about realism/balance issues.

Anyway, what is the points of going after de50 right now? Some people got their ass blown by a de50? There probably 5 people in the entire INF community using de50. If some people got own by someone using a pistol, so be it. The de50 guy, is skilled, and would have owned them twice as much if it used a rifle or a smg.

Else than UN17 and me in my "pistol" loadout, I know no one else who uses it.
 

{GD}Odie3

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While I like the DE50 (I use it sometimes) I do not think it is a whore weapon at all. If you have a real issue with bullet drop (perhaps there is) maybe we can get UN17's view on this (looks for UN17 now).
 

Keganator

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Does anyone here remember that it was made with the expressed intentions of *never* being on a server? You know, just something to fuck around with? I seem to remember that clearly...
 

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Demosthanese said:
Against an armored target, the DE does 60 damage. 2 shots to kill. The M16A2
does 45 damage:3 shots to kill.
Well, the DE.50 has a bigger round.
I know if I got hit by 2 shots from a .50 I wouldnt be alive long, armor or not.