One Year Later There's No UT3 Client For Linux

[Alhanalem]

Lots of people have a 64 bit CPU and don't really even realize it, because their computer came with a 32 bit OS installed.

Notice though, that like 25% of Vista users are running x64, compared with a very tiny percentage of XP users (because XP 64 wasn't exactly made widely available, whereas it's included in the box with some editions of Vista)

 

[TheIronKnuckle]

Lots of people have a 64 bit CPU and don't really even realize it, because their computer came with a 32 bit OS installed.

That probably explains why it says amd64 athlon X 2 on my comp but whenever i try to use the ut2004 64 bit installer it doesn't work

 

[oldkawman]

Lots of people have a 64 bit CPU and don't really even realize it, because their computer came with a 32 bit OS installed.

Notice though, that like 25% of Vista users are running x64, compared with a very tiny percentage of XP users (because XP 64 wasn't exactly made widely available, whereas it's included in the box with some editions of Vista)

Yea, unless your computer is 5 years old or older, you likely have a 64 bit cpu in it. The last 32 bit AMD CPU were the socket A, athlon XP type. While the last 32 bit intel cpu was the socket 478 P4. So, odds are that most folks have a 64 bit cpu inside that magic box they have as pretty much everything made since 2003 has been 64 bit.

Now seeing that windoze 7 has both 32 bit and 64 bit versions, it may be several more years before 64 bit becomes the norm. I guess we will have to wait for windoze 9 for that.

 

[GreatEmerald]

That probably explains why it says amd64 athlon X 2 on my comp but whenever i try to use the ut2004 64 bit installer it doesn't work

Correct!

 

[WHIPperSNAPper]

Any update on UT3 for Linux?

 

[GreatEmerald]

Nope. Phoronix still has no info on that. It only has an interesting fact that a new X server is out, with no ATI driver support whatsoever...

 

[oldkawman]

Well, it's getting pretty obvious that the Linux port will not be part of the expansion at all. No mention in the titan pack, no beta installer, or anything. That is such a shame and a big disappointment to many folks. Hopefully, one day will see some leakage of info that tells the true tale of how and why this happened.

Now I am starting to wonder if the Linux server will be able to have 2.0 clients join.

 

[Raynor.Z]

Indeed, we've already seen screenshots that were supposed to be from Linux and Mac versions and considering there's no update for a long time it really feels bad. I understand that there is (was?) basically only one person working on it, but any kind of progress info would be nice.

 

[GreatEmerald]

Aaaand, news!

You Can Now Play UT3 On Linux, Sort Of

The Linux client for Unreal Tournament 3 still hasn't been released, but it's now possible to easily play this game on Linux. Cedega 7.1 was released this morning and it now supports Unreal Tournament 3 along with better supporting Bioshock, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, FEAR 2, Medal of Honor Airborne, and Sins of a Solar Empire. Cedega 7.1 also has performance and stability improvements.

More information on Cedega 7.1 can be found on the Cedega news page.

-- http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEyMg

 

[GreatEmerald]

I'm sure everyone saw the news post on BU, so I'm not going to repeat it, but Phoronix confirmed that and also shows that there are a lot of people who actually want a Linux client:

UT3 Linux Still Undergoing Work, No ETA

Unreal Tournament 3 was released back on the 17th of November in 2007. Nearly a year and a half later, we still have no UT3 Linux client -- nor do we know the reason(s) behind this massive delay. Ryan Gordon, the widely-known Linux game developer that was contracted by Epic Games to port UT3 over to Linux and Mac OS X, has provided a brief update on the matter.

Ryan's update was very brief and all he basically said is that Unreal Tournament 3 for Linux and Mac OS X is still being developed. Ryan claims what is going on is just "optimizing and fixing annoying bugs at the moment." It has been 479 days now since the Windows client first shipped... With this optimizing and bug-fixing work, I certainly hope that the UT3 Linux client ships with very few bugs and can run graciously with both ATI and NVIDIA graphics (though at last check, Ryan went without ATI Linux testing). There still is no release date planned for the Unreal Tournament 3 Linux client.

Ryan's mailing list message can be read here. In this forum thread are already over 140 comments by outraged Linux gamers.

-- http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEzOQ

 

[oldkawman]

[ut3] Still on its way

Ryan chimed in on the Linux UT3 mailing list yesterday. He said it's still in the debugging stage. Here is what he wrote;
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Ryan C. Gordon to ut3 - yesterday
[ut3] Still on its way... ...since I imagine that the notice of mailing list software change will spark a (well deserved) round of complaints--after all, I have been largely absent from this list despite the cries for updates--I just wanted to drop a note and say that the UT3 linux and mac work is still ongoing. Largely we're just optimizing and fixing annoying bugs at the moment.
No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months late. I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can.
Thanks for your eternal patience,
--ryan.
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[Dark Pulse]

Ryan chimed in on the Linux UT3 mailing list yesterday. He said it's still in the debugging stage.

http://beyondunreal.com/view_story.php?id=12580

 

[GreatEmerald]

I'm sure everyone saw the news post on BU, so I'm not going to repeat it

 

[SimplyCosmic]

Now seeing that windoze 7 has both 32 bit and 64 bit versions, it may be several more years before 64 bit becomes the norm. I guess we will have to wait for windoze 9 for that.

From the retail side of things, 64-bit really is starting to take over. I'd say most of the desktops I'm setting up for my clients are 64-bit, with the exception of sub-$400 "entry-level" Emachines and Acer desktops.

The manufacturers started to make 64-bit available only due to memory address limit of 32-bit operating systems. Adding memory isn't quite as expensive as it used to be, so putting 4, 6 or 8GB in your system so it looks better on the bullet point listing comparisons is a quick way to get someone to buy your $800 desktop.

That said, they haven't really done much to educate the public about the difference between 32 and 64-bit Windows, and I would say the vast majority of new computer owners who have 64-bit Vista don't know it until they run into an older 32-bit program or hardware driver issue.

 

[Alhanalem]

Aaaand, news!


-- http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEyMg

Cedega is a poor choice (And it's not free, either); use Wine instead, if it works.

 

[Fuzz]

40 years later there's no satisfactory Unix based replacement for Windows... (If you want to be more fair, Windows 1.0 released 24 years ago.)

 

[oldkawman]

40 years later there's no satisfactory Unix based replacement for Windows... (If you want to be more fair, Windows 1.0 released 24 years ago.)

And by 1994, fourteen years ago, it almost worked as Win 3.0. Most programs still required a special MSDOS boot. All real games did. OMG it uses more than 640Kb ram! All CAD, CAM, and many other system intensive programs did as well as games like Wing Commander.

To be fair, I ran AutoCAD on UNIX workstations with optical mice back in 1990 in school. I think that program was UNIX and MSDOS only until 1995-96 or even later. Talk about a slow start!

Right, Linux OS still requires a more computer skill than most folks have. Which is why growth is slow. Just waiting for that breakthrough that sets some standards, and then some more standards, and on. The first step seems pretty far away.

I guess mentioning apple or mac and OSX, which is unix based, would be pretty silly as well.

 

[Riz]

any news on UT3 native client? i heard about wine being able to run it, but if its anything like Team Fortress 2 on wine, i rather stick to dual boot

 

[GreatEmerald]

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5937
As you can see, it's not that good... The horrible Mouse Escapes The Window Or Is Confined In An Area bug affects it just as well...

 

[Sir_Brizz]

There are several people who reported that Cedega runs it really well.