M82 Barret

[SaraP]

It's inherently impossible for a real weapon to be unrealistic, but a weapon as powerful as a semiautomatic .50BMG rifle is extremely difficult to implement because it's very difficult to accurately capture the Barrett's disadvantages (extremely bulky and heavy) along with its advantages (long range, devastatingly powerful round and relatively high rate of fire).

Most games would solve this by taking away some of the real advantages or adding made-up disadvantages; an ultra-realistic game like Infiltration can't do that, so it simply doesn't put the weapon in until such time as the technology of the day can simulate the disadvantages properly.

 

[ecale3]

not witout jamming at least.

Now a quick question, wouldn't the muzzle blast and the dust kicked up by the M82 obscure your sight picture for a second (assuming the recoil wasn't enough to do throw off your sight picture anyway, which i'm guessing it probably is)?

Also i figure the weight alone would balance it pretty well, it weighs like 44 pounds. I'm not sure of that as it was of the top of my head, but i believe it is accurate.
Why not have a bolt action and a semi auto sniper rifle in both 7.62 and .50BMG? I'm talking down the road of course (more INF 2K3/2K4 as the maps would probably be significantly larger), unless someone adds them third party which would be cool .

 

[Meplat]

Ecale- Yes, and no. The ports do a good job of directing the blast back, and to the sides. (Feels like someone smacked you in the face with two large,stiff sheets of cardboard, one on each side)

The recoil of both the '82, and the Armalite AR-50 was suprisingly mild. At most, comparable to a moderate hunting load from a 7 pound rifle. The AR-50 does try and twist to the left when fired..

Dust would be a product of the environment, (And poor site prep by the shooter. Laying anything below the muzzle to help hide any dust raised is one of the first lessons.) One could have the "dust" raised be specefic to the terrain one was shooting from. Desert? generate a hefty cloud. Sod? Little to none.


A bolt action 7.62MM precision rifle would be an interesting addition to a future release. One of A.I.'s rifles would be my vote.

Meplat-

 

[Evil_Joe]

Correct me wrong, jaunty step in you are the gun geek (and I say that with all affection), but the PSG and the SVD use different ammo. And the M82A2 I hear is classified as anti-personal not anti-material due to differences in the ammo. Something I heard in passing.

 

[randomas]

Talking about more options for sniper rifles I came across these sniper rifles made by Beretta and used by the Italian and a few other militaries they're different, they're bolt action, european sniper rifles.What do you think?

 

[jaunty]

Correct me wrong, jaunty step in you are the gun geek (and I say that with all affection), but the PSG and the SVD use different ammo. And the M82A2 I hear is classified as anti-personal not anti-material due to differences in the ammo. Something I heard in passing.

The PSG-1 is 7.62x51mm, a.k.a 7.62mm NATO.

The SVD Dragunov is 7.62x54mm rimmed. The Russians have been using it since before the turn of the century. It's seen them through both world wars in the Mosin-Nagant M1891 and the dreivatives thereof.

The Barrett (.50BMG) is considered a dual purpose rifle, I believe, since different loads for it can produce different results. A SLAP (Sabot) round, for instance, will dispense with most unarmored cars and trucks from quite a fair distance, while standard ball ammunition will really put the hurt on anybody who's unlucky enough to be in its way.

 

[PBH]

Not sure whether to actually suggest this or not.

What would be the reasons against having it?

You see, I have a sig with it in as well:

Oh you guys and your guns!

 

[jaunty]

Oh you guys and your guns!

Well that was a post worth making, wasn't it

 

[PBH]

Well that was a post worth making, wasn't it

for the barret anythings worth it!

 

[ThunderChunky]

Dust would be a product of the environment, (And poor site prep by the shooter. Laying anything below the muzzle to help hide any dust raised is one of the first lessons.) One could have the "dust" raised be specefic to the terrain one was shooting from. Desert? generate a hefty cloud. Sod? Little to none.

Sounds like a tasty idea for a mutator... I'd say I could do it as a perfect way to learn UScript, but I've got better things to be doing right now...

 

[Vega-don]

i don't want weapons not used by the military forces or Police - Rebels (since with EAS we can make police operations)

thats why MP7 , desert eagle and robar ... should not be in the game. i want weapons actualy USED worldwilde ,like AK47, standart Mp5 , M4 , L85 (that british thing) , G36 , AK74 , AK 10X ... M40. not the "weapons we should put in game because its realy cool but nobody uses it" .

weapons in inf2.9 arent that used , exept the M16 (irak , vietnam , israel , list goes on ), Famas (irak , africa ..) , Sig551 (French special forces use it) , AKMSU (or similar AK variants ) . . MP5-40 i dont know but probably.

i dont even know if the P90 has already killed one people in operations (wich isnt a bad thing ).

 

[Grim_Reaper ~UFS~]

The M82 is too big and bulky to use in INF. If you did want a nice .50 cal Barret, Cleve, check out the M95. It's much smaller than the M82 and I think it has higher muzzle velocity.

 

[sir_edmond]

And I also think its bolt action over the M82's Semi-auto
and its known that the US army uses the M82

 

[spm1138]

i dont even know if the P90 has already killed one people in operations (wich isnt a bad thing ).

Yes.

http://www.specialoperations.com/Counterterrorism/peru.html

 

[Grim_Reaper ~UFS~]

I wish people would stop with the technicalities and just say they want the gun ingame because they like the model, the rest can go to hell.

 

[sir_edmond]

is the fact that you have the scope to see the enemy and the power to take him down and not run away if you miss your first shot. Hey its 50 at semi auto. I say the best pasable weapon would be the browing mountes with a digital scope and displayed on a screen and you just moce the gun and let her rip.

 

[jaunty]

This is a weapon that nearly weighs the same as TWO FN MAGs (give or take a couple of pounds). Now tell me, which one do you think might be just a little bit more useful to the Infantry squad, section, or company.

The GPMG, which can supress groups of enemy and allow the company to move up, or the rifle that puts one large hole in a single person once every 30 seconds or so. I think I know which one I'd be ordering my boys to take if I were a company commander and had a choice in the matter.

 

[sir_edmond]

30 sec with a RC50, 10 with a M82

 

[Meplat]

Ohh, I would SO like to have a FN MAG in Infil. I would do a happy dance, and feel all tingly. Then I would have some beer.

Anyhow, M82? *Shrugs* at best, it has five more rounds than the Robar. Personally, I'd rather have a M1903 USMC/NM with a nicely modelled Unertil 8X in the game, but the chances of that I suspect are about the same as a M82 appearing. (If not less.)

Meplat-

 

[OICW]

I like the FN MAG a lot, but I'd actually prefer to see it as a tripod mounted emplacement in Inf, and have the PKM in as the player's portable medium machinegun (alongside the Minimi in the LMG role).