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[GNAT]

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Nobody said it would feel good, jeez... Neither does getting shot. And people don't say "doh" and "lol" after they die. I haven't seen a map with jungle rock yet, and as far as rubble goes its dive or death. You may fall down, scratch your knee, and stop to look at it. But I assure you when your life is on the line you do what you have to do to survive including taking a rock to the gut or a "non pillow" ground dive. Soldiers are manufactured(trained) in this among other things that involve pain and displeasure to us computer geeks. Just because it may hurt you doesn't mean your bada$$ inf guy can't take it. And as I said before I have practiced this hundreds of times in a field near my house. I and a friend move from cover to cover up a field firing on a target. This includes taking dives in the dirt and uneven "non pillow" ground. If your gun is up and your concentrating on the target not the HARD ground then its not a big deal u suck it up and keep going.

 

[BAT[PBC]]

Ok the terrian around your house is one thing, real life combat zones are another. Im sorry taking a belly full of black palm after jumping into it is going to throw your aim and concentration off. Being able to "Leap and Fire" might work in Hollywood, but not in real life. Anybody that has ever been in combat knows this.

Plus I would love to see someone try some John Woo #@#$@ with a 150 lbs of equipment!!

 

[GNAT]

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OK forget that basic training includes jumpin into big piles of $hiat and pushing your body further and further through pain and your fear of hitting the dirt. Just forget all that, PEOPLE CAN DO IT. I never said you would have a perfect aim but we are talking about close quarters battle, and when someone is 3 foot in front of you when you drop they get hit.

 

[[L]-Lestat]

Too return to one of my earlier posts here, all I want to see is an animation to show it happening (Not the sudden appearance on the ground from a standing start), an completely modeled and wqorking collision box (2.86 I believe) and a temporary loss of accuracy during the diver and for a short time afterwards to reflect the effects of diving to the ground fully equipped.

 

[GNAT]

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An animation wouldn't be that bad but it wouldn't be much different than what is already in place with just dropping to the ground. It doesn't take long to fall to the ground. How about the "jolt" that you get when you jump off of a building... your head wobbles a little. That would be the most appropriate from a first person perspective if you ask me.

 

[[L]-Lestat]

If you were to throw yourself to the ground, fully equipped and holding a weapon, you would need to take the impact in some way with the upper part of the body. Most people would probably take it on the elbows and forearms. The ensuing jolt through the arms, combined with the recoil from the weapon would cause major innacuracy.

Gnat, I like your idea of the head wobble, but it also needs loss of accuracy.

>>>>Lestat awaits flames from the gun lobby types<<<<

 

[GNAT]

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then the possible solution would be to inact an arm wobble or just the head wobble be attatched to a waist up wobble that would throw off serious aiming but would still allow you to be firing and there is still a chance you will take out the person standing directly infront of you.

 

[Rostam]

i gues u could shoot with a pistol... as long as u fire with one hand a use the other to break the fall... just dont try this at home..

 

[BAT[PBC]]

good idea

Ya Gnat

Good idea!! have a wobble built in, arms, head, both! Plus I think it should depend on the weapon your packin (Robar v MP5) and loadout (more stuff you carry the longer it takes to hit the deck)
I agree that a pistol would be the most effective in this manuver.
Trying some Matrix type stunt with a M60 or SAW is just not realistic.

P.S. I dont know about you, but Basic Training and Real Life Combat didnt seem the same to me.

 

[<P^R>Imperial]

I also doubt that soilders can instantly go prone, aim, and shoot someone. It would take atleast a second before you would be able to pull the trigger. If it was made so that when you go prone your view moves very eradically or you cant shoot for a second then I would be happy since in that second I would have shot the proner.

 

[Rostam]

Wel... i took a fake shilds toy (you know, those dumb orange guns..) and I tried it... it worked! And im not trained at all! I know that a real pistol is heavier, but a real soldier is better trained so he should be able to do it just as fast as I did, or even faster!
PS: It was not my toy!!!

 

[DarkSniper]

True snipers are born prone! muwaahahahahaaha

 

[Rostam]

Well... I wasnt born kneeling or standing.... guess im a true sniper