It's strange with the USA...

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Lizard Of Oz

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I believe Montana lowered (or set) the speed limit from "Prudent" to 75mph. /~unreal/ubb/html/frown.gif

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FeRgus

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In the USA you can drive as fast as you want any where any time.... It's just real expensive. /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif
 

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... that you say 'Land of unbounded possibilities' -- 'Where horses can still run free'(oooppss)

You know, I always wonder about the laws there. I was in NewYork some months ago so I came thinking about it.

Just compare this:
USA: you're allowed to drink and buy beer at the age of 21

Germany: you can buy and drink beer at the age of 16 and you're allowed to buy the hard stuff till you're 18
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USA: you can drive a car by the age of 16

Germany: you get your license with 18 and in the first two years you lose it immediately if you drive only a bit too fast or have one little accident (but imagine an 18 birthday in Germany, you're completely mature and get your driving license, believe that partys are awesome)
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USA: you can drive 100 km/h over there, right? should be something about 60 mph or so on highways

Germany: in Germany you can drive on many, many, nearly every highway (or is it called speedway, I don't know-- the streets you can go fastest I mean) every speed you wish, if this is something about 240 km/h, that's 150 mph you can do if you wish, you won't get a ticket or so.(only to mention this, that's the speed our car is able to reach and we really drive that fast, also with my only near 20 years, speak not even 2 years practice in driving)

--- I think the whole thing is just crazy, what do you think about this ---
 

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Germany's highways, called the Autobahn. no speed limit at all. winding mountain ranges, incredible scenery which u can scarcely enjoy as you zip past every other car on the road. id love to take my car to 200+....legally /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif
 

Zaccix

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Hmm so THAT'S why all those big car companies test their prototypes in Germany! /~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif

(Well OK I know Porsche does).


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BillyBadAss

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Of course Porsche does, they are a German car company. Don't forget in Montana you can go as fast as you want. To bad I live in Dayton Ohio. The fastest I can legally go is 65. /~unreal/ubb/html/frown.gif
 

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Doesn't matter what the speed limit is in NYC, u can rarely get above 40. (I HATE FRICKIN'TRAFFIC!) Maybe I should move to Montana.
Anyway I thought I would share a little story about the Autobahn. The CEO of a major US importer (my account), does a lot of business in Germany. He got so pissed off about being passed on the Autobahn all the time, he bought a Corvette ZR-1 in the US (first year they came out) and shipped it to Europe.
Anyway, he hardly ever drove it over there. (I don't think he could make it legal for Europe) So, he shipped it back here. I got to use it for a day when I picked it up at the pier. (It had a special valet key that needed to be turned on to use the supercharger, I forgot to turn it on at first, then when I did, OH MY!)
Anyway, back to the point, Europe's laws sure are different than the US, sometimes better, sometimes not.

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German kids drink like fish because marijuana is a rarity, and some kids even grew up on a glass of beer for breakfast.

In the USA, you can drive 70mph, which is about 120kmph, but our roads generally are not sturdy enough to handle 1000 times more cars than Germany has at the same speed...

... That's because our highways weren't designed to be aircraft runways for the Luftwaffe, or fast access roads into France for Panzers, you big German goofball.

Besides, driving at 150mph in Germany, you run out of room pretty quickly. I can show you places in the SouthWest USA where you drive practically the length of Germany before you get to the next gas station.

You can drive pretty fast across New Mexico before you come to a part where a state trooper will likely be. Northern Nevada might as well be a hyperspace zone -- drive as fast as you please.
 

Zaccix

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I dunno if anyone heard about this, but over here in the UK this university's developing a system which limits your speed based on a device in your car.

The idea is that the device, and so your car as well, is continually tracked by satellite and reports the speed you're travelling at. The satellite has got a road map of the entire UK stored on it and if you're going too fast, the satellite tells the device to slow you down to the legal speed for the road you're on.


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Yeah, and as soon as they make one of those you'll be able to pick up a sattelite jamming device at your local SEARS (or other international shopping destination).

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OK, that's it, Zaccix!!!

Now, I'm really scared, huhhuu.
I can't even think about it, 'cause if they send you tickets, based on the speed this device reported...

poor bastard /~unreal/ubb/html/frown.gif

I really hope this idea isn't succesful, 'cause a dark, dark time will follow.

Hey Present4U, shouldn't flame you at all. You sound a little bit angered to me.(sound?- I can't hear anything /~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif [wasn't there sth. over in the unreal for..... /~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif /~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif ])
But you're absolutely right, nearly every third german has to drive in circles if he tries to get somewhere, 'cause they can't get a sharp curve on their speed and have to near in little steps to make no accidents.
That's why we have no real straights in germany, only long-long-long curves.

A last thing, our streets are NOT capable of tank-traffic!!!
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You know I used to speed and think it was cool, but no I am older and realize I was a fool.

I have a kid now and I see how the morons on the road -- I wish I could say it was teenagers, but it isn't -- endanger my daughter and I ever time I get on the road. If you would think about how serious the potential for killing some one else really is you would drive safer! I know you are laughing now, hey I've been where you are and know what you are thinking. I've had the fuzz-busters and the tickets for going 85 in a 40 mph zone. I've been nabbed by the planes in the sky and had to go to defensive driving class to get points removed, so don't tell I don't know. I was an idiot, but I didn't/wouldn't listen to anyone.

Learn from my mistakes...slow down. You don't get there any faster and you won't be enadangering the lives of others, let alone yourself.

I'll get off the soapbox for now.


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Bugman

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Hey Taskmaster, I wasn't laughin' at all.
I got a ticket in my first two years that nearly cost me my license and I had to go all through it till I was at a court to leave my license where it should be, in my pocket.

But you see, I don't mean drivin' high speed whereever you are, only where it is allowed and only if you can really control that speed. I mean if it starts to rain, or it's dark outside I normally slow down, 'cause I myself don't fell happy drivin' fast.

The one thing people should learn is drivin' safe. If you drive fast, it's a problem with doin' it safe also, but if someone has a little respect of high-speed, I think he has a good point in controllin' it to the point he wouldn't go any further and I think those drivers are safe-drivers also.

---That was a long one, but had to be said.
 

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I don't know about anyone else, but I drive at most 10 mph over the posted speed limit. I'm 18 and already learned not to push it when driving. I haven't been in any wrecks, but I got a ticket doing 48 in a 35 (dumb @$$ Meadows police). I don't think it's worth lives to get somewhere faster, just leave earlier. But there are some people who are plain bad at driving, and that scares me. I mean damn, if you can't drive right, you need to get your license taken away.

About that thing that monitors your speed, it's clever, but I wouldn't like it. Nobody and I mean nobody can always do the speed limit. There just need to be more police.


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Zaccix

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Ever seen those Kronenbourg 1 litre cans? Yes cans! Now THAT is how beer should be drunk on the move! (Walking that is....or staggering, depending on how many you've had /~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif )


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A couple of misconceptions floating around here. Speed limits have been imposed on many of Germany's motorways over the past few years. There aren't that many stretches where you can still tool down the road at 240 k/mh.
Also, (I don't know for sure about this - just an uneducated guess), isn't it likely that Nato had some say in German motorway construction after the second world war? Sure, the Germans built them originally with an eye to European domination (good game mode), but that goes the other way too. Reforger's all well and good, but you still need to move your troops inland quickly.

German beer's excellent - beats British any day (I'm British, btw).

Something else - possibly less well known. Nearly every appartment and house in Germany has a balcony and basement. I heard (while in the Army years ago, so it could just be one of those "swing the lantern" rumours) that this was originally conceived of to a). provide covered fire positions from al buildings and b). bomb shelters. Anyone know if there's any truth in that?
 

BillyBadAss

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I live in Dayton Ohio and just about everyone here seems to speed. If the limit is 35 or 45 they will all go around 50. If you are on the highway everyone goes around 80. If everyone could just go the same speed it would be fine.
What pisses me off are those people that drive in the fast lane in their M.I.N.I.(Manhood Is Not Intact) Van going 50. That is what the far right lane is for.