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Hover boards?

Discussion in 'Unreal Tournament 3' started by Kantham, May 8, 2006.

  1. JaFO

    JaFO bugs are features too ...

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    That's as likely to die as the default "weapon/vehicle X is overpowered/weak"-comments or the "Hellbender was stolen from Halo"-comments.

    It's pretty much a given that in any discussion involving hoverboards someone in the anti-hoverboard-crowd is going to use the "Tony Hawk"-comparison as a basis for their reasoning.
     
  2. shadow_dragon

    shadow_dragon is ironing his panties!

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    I wouldn't mind if they comapred it to Back to the Future or so.

    In fact, the first skin i make for this game will be Flea from Red Hot Chilli Peppers, to see him boarding about would amuse me greatly.
     
  3. Kharnellius

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    I don't really care where they got their inspiration (notice the word inspiration) from...as long as it is cool and fun. So far everything I have seen has me seriously stoked. The walkers look awesome and the boards... well after seeing them, I have changed my mind and feel they will fit into UT quite nicely and will add some much needed movement in ONS. (At first I thought it sounded really dumb, to be honest.)

    I have already imagined myself gliding down a hill (like Torlan or something) towards a furball and jumping off a dozen yards away to join the chaos as I whip out my flak cannon. :D
     
  4. nuttella

    nuttella Scare

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    I just hope there is a lot of whining about it. It wouldn't be UT without whining.
     
  5. UnrealGrrl

    UnrealGrrl Enemy flag carrier is Her!

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    im looking forward to them working out and being fun but i still have reservations, mostly because we all know..

    and so im just hoping whatever exploits (ala shield jumping, dodge boosting, tele punting) are discovered that they arent too bad and that they are quickly squashed with updates/patches.

    ONS needs to survive & thrive to keep UT alive and itd be sad to see HBoards goof that all up.
     
  6. Rk.

    Rk. Sleezy bastard.

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    I personally like the idea of having HBoards. If there are great distances between the power nodes and no action or speedy vehicles nearby, a lot of the action dies.
     
  7. rhirud

    rhirud Fast learning novice

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    I must say, I'm no longer worried about hoverboards.

    If a shot makes them tumble; predict a shockball to where they'll tumble to, hit them with shock primary, hit the combo, and that'll be that. The important thing is that Epic has made it clear that they are for travel only, and in combat they leave you at a disadvantage.

    So it'll work.
     
  8. Kantham

    Kantham Fool.

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    Yeah he clearly mentioned that you can knock the player off the board and once you use the board you have no weapon, it's only for getting into the action faster.
     
  9. -AEnubis-

    -AEnubis- fps greater than star

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    Don't know why you guys worry so much in the first place...

    This is round 2 for them in onslaught, I'm sure they are paying attention to past mistakes... Look at how much more balanced AS was in 2k4, and with simple changes like "no sg jumps."

    Most of the big problems or exploits can be chalked up to "first time releasing this gametype."

    Remember, they don't do open betas...
     
  10. Gorzakk

    Gorzakk Scorpion Powah!

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    If a map can be held by campers (i.e. it has choke nodes with no cut off options) then that map aint finished yet.

    Well there is 101 other gamemodes without vehicles, so why take the one mode with vehicles and nerf them? Vehicle based teamplay is the only thing that appeals to me in Unreal tbh. I never play DM or any other miscellanious gametype. I hope there is a no hoverboard mutator, and I hope that if they do turn out to be lame public servers will use it.
     
  11. briach

    briach ಠ_ಠ DaReTaL ಠ_ಠ

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    Hoverboards would do the opposite. They'd allow the gamemakers to not have to nerf the vehicles to compensate for slower player movement.

    Who cares if there is a hoverboard mutator? Just don't play on the servers with the mutators you don't like. It's that simple.
     
  12. Kharnellius

    Kharnellius .

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    I agree with the first part but dont quite understand the second part. I don't see how it will be nerfed with the inclusion of the Hboards.

    Either way I just wanted to point out that briach posted that message in jest. I'm pretty sure he wasn't serious. (read posts directly after it.)
     
  13. -n7-

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    I am very excited about the hoverboards inclusion into UT2k7 :)

    I think it'll be so helpful for those times when you get abandoned in the middle of nowhere.

    What i'm wondering though is are these boards going to spawn at nodes only, or will we be able to whip them out when desired :lol:

    Also, i am secretly hoping for tons of hoverboards mods for stunting, etc.

    Can you imagine hoverboard TDM :D

    I can.
     
  14. R.Flagg

    R.Flagg New Member

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    Thanks for the recognition. :)

    I wouldn't count on it, not unless they change a lot of how the code works. The issue of not having your weapons available on the board was an engine limitation, and not a design choice (or to be more precise - we assume it was, based on our experience). In Chaos we opted to get around that engine-limitation by giving HB riders a designated HB weapon.

    Oh yeah. We've done more than think about it. And if you're not allergic to mods, give it a shot. It's fun.

    http://chaotic.beyondunreal.com/c2_screenshots/cctf/board_grapple3.jpg

    Haven't tried that yet, but you can try 'HyperBoard CTF' soon if you want (a Chaos take on 'low-grav insta-gib vehicle ctf').

    http://chaotic.beyondunreal.com/c2_screenshots/cctf/hbctf9.jpg
    http://chaotic.beyondunreal.com/c2_screenshots/cctf/hbctf11.jpg

    I can't wait to play UT2007. Hope it works well enough on my computer.
     
  15. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    What specific limitations, if you don't mind my asking? Epic obviously wouldn't have a problem like that since they can change whatever they want in the engine...
     
  16. Sijik

    Sijik Snagged an item.

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    My guess is he realizes it's sarcasm, and therefore is assuming that what briach actually wants is for vehicles to be nerfed (since that's the opposite of what he said in jest) in order to compensate for non-nerfed player movement... As though he's taking what briach said and swinging it to the opposite extreme to compensate for the sarcasm, disregarding all the potential fine lines along the way...
    I coudl be wrong, of course, and I'm sure I'll be corrected in no time.
     
  17. R.Flagg

    R.Flagg New Member

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    We agree, it probably could be done, and there have been lots of hours by our Jb and a handful of skilled community coders exploring the idea. However, the issue becomes is the result worth the time/effort required to pull it off (as is the case with so many other cool ideas - coders can really bring a party down sometimes, what with all their insistence on dealing with reality and whatnot ;) )

    This is from our dev section some time ago, but I don't think Jb would mind me quoting him here on this:

    "... starting with UT2k3 your player consist of a pawn and a controller class. The controller is what handles your input (or its a bot class) as it "posseses" your pawn, and the pawn is just what we see. The problem we have is that when you enter the vehicle, you "un-posses" the player pawn and now possess the vehicle. The problem stems from the fact that your weapons are keep in your player pawn class which looses all direct control when you posses the vehicle. What we have been able to do is hack in a way to do some firing, but its not at all what we need to do to be the same thing. There are other things going on when you hit fire and the code stars firing. These are all hidden in native code. Solid Snake and I have discussed it and we dont see any way out with the current design. Not saying we could not get it to work, but when we look at the time and the unknown it seems to be too high of a price to pay when the outcome is an uknown at best. "
     
  18. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    That's what I figured it was. :)
     
  19. Gorzakk

    Gorzakk Scorpion Powah!

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    Infantry is being given a method to get around the fact there are vehicles. In UT2k4 infantry is already overpowered vs some vehicles that it really shouldnt be (scorpions and leviathans). Now hoverboards? I can just see really good DMers coming to ONS and being able to keep a match down using infantry weapons only, therefore reducing the value of the vehicles. Currently in ONS you at least need the vehicles to get you from node to node, as walking distances are too much. This forces good DMers to use vehicles and they are at least vunerable that way, so pure ONSers can beat them. UT2k7 ons is giving them a way to by pass that and attack any node/core on foot. :mad:

    This is just an assumption of course and I am subject to getting things wrong. I am just saying this is how it looks from my angle now.
     
  20. moonflyer

    moonflyer New Member

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    IMHO, don't worry about so-called good DM players dominate with HBoard. That's funny:]
    And I am looking forward to see HBoard in VCTF or even TDM as a mutator
     

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