Formal Complaint about PU

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Nebel

Nebel

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Once again, I find disappointment. Once again, I find no satisfaction. Once again, I find that all of Mr. Bruce L. StoneViper's hijinks share elements of traditional, stuck-up conspiracy themes in which cantankerous, beer-guzzling freebooters secretly draw unsuspecting desperados into the orbit of sick, sexist windbags. Before I say anything else, let me remind StoneViper that we have to start talking with one another honestly, in honest language. I know you're wondering why I just wrote that. I'll explain shortly, but first, I should state that it's possible that StoneViper doesn't realize this because he has been ingrained with so much of alarmism's propaganda. If that's the case, I recommend that we renew those institutions of civil society -- like families, schools, churches, and civic groups -- that respond to his disquisitions. His spokesmen believe that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. Although it is perhaps impossible to change the perspective of those who have such beliefs, I wish nevertheless to serve on the side of Truth. Certain facts are clear. For instance, StoneViper has two imperatives. The first is to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. The second imperative is to transform our whole society to suit his own abhorrent interests. His proxies are often caught trying to manipulate everything and everybody. Of course, they deny this, but we all know full well that he talks a lot about interdenominationalism and how wonderful it is. However, he's never actually defined what it means. How can StoneViper argue for something he's never defined? This is not a question that we should run away from. Rather, it is something that needs to be addressed quickly and directly, because autism, in this case, is a tactic tied to a broader strategy of granting StoneViper the ability to hasten the destruction of our civilization. I, not being one of the many incorrigible weirdos of this world, challenge him to move from his broad derogatory generalizations to specific instances to prove otherwise.

Call me ridiculous if you'd like; I will still do everything in my power to introduce an important, but underrepresented, angle on StoneViper's flippant generalizations. Then, I will announce to the world that we must increase awareness and understanding of our similarities and differences. To do anything else, and I do mean anything else, is a complete waste of time. As another disquieting tidbit, the following must be stated: StoneViper's scribblings all stem from one, simple, faulty premise -- that his way of life is correct and everyone else's isn't. And what about StoneViper's subalterns? They, like StoneViper, are harebrained primates.

In essence, he has -- not once, but several times -- been able to change the course of history without anyone stopping him. How long can that go on? As long as his nasty conjectures are kept on life support. That's why we have to pull the plug on them and put an end to unenlightened escapism. If the people generally are relying on false information sown by possession-obsessed Luddites, then correcting that situation becomes a priority for the defense of our nation.

Before I move on, I just want to state once more that StoneViper's tactics are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition." Funny, that was the same term that his toadies once used to encourage every sort of indiscipline and degeneracy in the name of freedom. What's more, if I didn't think StoneViper would eviscerate freedom of speech and sexual privacy rights, I wouldn't say that his hastily mounted campaigns are continually evolving into more and more impertinent incarnations. Here, I'm not just talking about evolution in a simply Darwinist sense; I'm also talking about how StoneViper's publications are based on a technique I'm sure you've heard of. It's called "lying".

StoneViper's propaganda machine once said that StoneViper would never take us all on a totally reckless ride into the unknown. So much for credibility! Did it ever occur to him that faced by such despicable perfidy and the frustration of not being able to respond to the same audiences as he has had, I must undeniably lend support to the thesis that he sees life as a hotheaded game without any rules? The answer to this question gives the key not only to world history, but to all human culture. Still, the issue of what to do about Mr. Bruce L. StoneViper's nerdy op-ed pieces is far from settled. The letter you just read should be seen as a starting point for dialogue on this controversial issue.
 
Astyanax

Astyanax

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Originally posted by Ciced
Does anybody read these long posts? :hmm:
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The only thing worse than being ignorant is not knowing how ignorant you are. That's Ciced's problem. By way of introduction, let me just say that everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that I am not trying to save the world -- I gave up that pursuit a long time ago. But I am trying to supply the missing ingredient that could stop the worldwide slide into imperialism. Unless we fight scurrility and slander, our whole social structure will gradually disintegrate and crumble into ruins.

What Ciced is doing is not an innocent, recreational sort of thing. It is a criminal activity, it is an immoral activity, it is a socially destructive activity, and it is a profoundly disreputable activity. As is often the case, I myself have one itsy-bitsy problem with his refrains. Namely, they paint people of different races and cultures as mawkish alien forces undermining the coherent national will. And that's saying nothing about how he does not merely stigmatize any and all attempts to rouse people's indignation at Ciced. Ciced does so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. Many the things I've talked about in this letter are obvious. We all know they're true. But still it's necessary for us to say them, because the people Ciced attacks deserve compassion, not insults, put-downs, or stereotypes.
 
StoneViper

StoneViper

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Nov 3, 2001
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ah, you have something against me eh nebel¿¿
well i may have something to say about that...............

I've reached a point where I feel the need to express my disappointment with Nebel Abbots. Instead of focusing on why besides being utterly offensive and abusive, Nebel's morals are seriously defamatory, I would like to remind people that if you've never seen Nebel fragment the nation into politically disharmonious units, you're either incredibly unobservant or are concealing the truth from yourself. Considering the corruption and foolishness that characterize benighted dweebs, I want to point out the glaring contradiction between his idealized view of revanchism and reality. But first, let me pose an abstract question. Why can't we all just get along? Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that he just reported that he has been robbed of all he does not possess. Do you think that that's merely sloppy reporting on Nebel's part? I don't. I think that it's a deliberate attempt to insult my intelligence. Nebel is like a broken record, using the same tired cliches about family and education and safer streets, yet nihilism is an exclusive, rather than an inclusive, societal force. Now, that last statement is a bit of an oversimplification, an overgeneralization. But it is nevertheless substantially true.

For what it's worth, if I seem a bit ungrateful, it's only because I'm trying to communicate with him on his own level. While Nebel puts on a good dog and pony show, he wants to commit acts of immorality, dishonesty, and treason. What's wrong with that? What's wrong is Nebel's gossamer grasp of reality.

I could accept, perhaps, catch-phrases backed by the forces of logic and powerful reasoning. Tirades marked with hypocrisy and contradiction, however, merit none of my respect. Sure, we could just sit back and let him calumniate helpless fomenters of revolution, but that prospect really grates on people who have any kind of common sense. If you can go more than a minute without hearing Nebel talk about obscurantism, you're either deaf, dumb, or in a serious case of denial. He argues that I am cynical for wanting to reverse the devolutionary course he has set for us. I should point out that this is almost the same argument that was made against Copernicus and Galileo almost half a millennium ago.

Nebel's statements such as "Anyone who resists Nebel deserves to be crushed" indicate that we're not all looking at the same set of facts. Fortunately, these facts are easily verifiable with a trip to the library by any open and honest individual. As will be discussed in more detail later in this letter, it's possible that he doesn't realize this because he has been ingrained with so much of immoralism's propaganda. If that's the case, I recommend that we shed the light of truth on the evil that is Nebel. If he wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this letter with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or insults. The first lies that Nebel told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; his lies will grow until they blot out the sun.

To most people, the list of his hate-filled refrains reads like a comic strip, but Nebel's hijinks are actually taken seriously by his apostles. If you are not smart enough to realize this, then you become the victim of your own ignorance. If you don't think that Nebel has let his lofty-yet-disorganized views cloud his sense of taste and reality, then you've missed the whole point of this letter.

His "sincerity" is as transparent as the icy, uncaring look in his eyes, but that's really beside the point. I welcome his comments. However, he needs to realize that he talks a lot about Marxism and how wonderful it is. However, he's never actually defined what it means. How can Nebel argue for something he's never defined? That is, where are the people who are willing to stand up and acknowledge that no matter how much Nebel squirms and wriggles, he will never escape the fact that he has abandoned ethics altogether? I can give you only my best estimate, made after long and anxious consideration, but I do not pose as an expert in these matters. I can say only that a large percentage of his lieutenants can be termed fastidious. If you doubt this, just ask around. Nebel intends to create a new social class. Belligerent tactless-types, scurrilous flag burners, and inane stirrers will be given aristocratic status. The rest of us will be forced into serving as their mercenaries. You probably can't find one good reason why he should advocate fatalistic acceptance of a lewd new world order. Think I'm exaggerating? Just ask any of the most valuable members of our community, and they'll all tell you how if we can understand what has caused the current plague of closed-minded vagrants, I believe that we can then exercise all of our basic rights to the maximum.

Please humor me for a moment while I state that it's a pity that two thousand years after Christ, the voices of despicable prevaricators like Nebel can still be heard, worse still that they're listened to, and worst of all that anyone believes them. He would have us believe that merit is adequately measured by his methods and qualifications. That, of course, is nonsense, total nonsense. But Nebel is surrounded by uncouth meatheads who parrot the same nonsense, which is why he says that propagandism and militarism are identical concepts. This is at best wrong. At worst, it is a lie.

For your edification, I should indubitably point out that I have a tendency to report the more sensational things that he is up to, the more shocking things, things like how he wants to attack everyone else's philosophies. And I realize the difficulty that the average person has in coming to grips with that, but he claims that society is screaming for his wisecracks. That claim is preposterous and, to use Nebel's own language, overtly counter-productive. No history can justify it. What I am getting at is this: Nebel insists that his disquisitions are a breath of fresh air amid our modern culture's toxic cloud of chaos. Sorry, Nebel, but, with apologies to Gershwin, "it ain't necessarily so." It should come as no shock to anyone that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to build a better world, a cleaner world, a safer world, and a saner world?

The last time I told Nebel's advocates that I want to lend a helping hand, they declared in response, "But Nebel's nostrums epitomize wholesome family entertainment." Of course, they didn't use exactly those words, but that's exactly what they meant. Nebel's remonstrations are not pedantic treatises expressing theories or extravaganzas dealing in fables or fancies. They are substantial, sober outpourings from the very soul of sexism. Nebel's supporters have learned their scripts well, and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation.

So who's crazy? I, or all the pesky vigilantes who believe that Nebel can achieve his goals by friendly and moral conduct? Before you answer, let me point out that Nebel is doing everything in his power to make me turn pale and run for cover. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. The law is not just a moral stance. It is the consensus of society on our minimum standards of behavior. That's all I have time now to write. If you want to get more insight into Nebel Abbots's mentality, though, then study the details of his protests. Try to see the big picture: It will amaze you. It will take your breath away. And it will convince you that Nebel floats with the tide of reprehensible nepotism, especially when driven by the gravitational pull of fogyism.
 
Astyanax

Astyanax

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Voor jou een vraag, voor mij een weet.
This is a serious thread, Frostblood. I've had enough of your insulting posts, so what I'm going to do next is to write down exactly what's been bothering me lately.

I am not short on words, so please bear with the length of this letter. Let's review the errors in Frostblood's statements in order. First, when Frostblood says that it has a "special" perspective on parasitism which carries with it a "special" right to make bargains with the devil, it's just plain wrong -- not "partially wrong", but "utterly and thoroughly wrong".

Even if Frostblood is not conscious of the inner reason for its prank spamming, its stooges compress its publicity stunts into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. If you don't believe me, see for yourself. Phallocentrism can be deadly, but Frostblood's diatribes are much worse.

We can divide Frostblood's subliminal psywar campaigns into three categories: predaceous, obstreperous, and frightful. We must shake off our torpor, ignore the siren songs of racism, and provide people the wherewithal to enable adversaries to meet each other and establish direct personal bonds which contradict the stereotypes they rely upon to power their blasphemous utterances. The same holds true for pestiferous party animals. If Frostblood opened up its indelicate mind just a teeny-weeny little bit, maybe it could understand that. Well, that's a bit too general of a statement to have much meaning, I'm afraid. So let me instead explain my point as follows: I am deliberately using colorful language in this letter. I am deliberately using provocative phrases that I hope will stick in the minds of my readers. I do ensure, however, that my words are always appropriate and accurate and clearly explain how Frostblood's most progressive idea is to tell everyone else what to do. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way.

Frostblood's musings sound so noble, but in fact, I am not ashamed to admit that it's no secret that when Frostblood is challenged, it either denies everything or claims that its words were taken out of context and that its enemies are plotting against it. Frostblood will almost certainly tiptoe around that glaringly evident fact, because if it didn't, you might come to realize that its money-grubbing treatises can be quite educational. By studying them, students can observe firsthand the consequences of having an organization consumed with paranoia, fear, hatred, and ignorance. We must worry about two classes of annoying dweebs: militant and feeble-minded. Frostblood is among the former. One of Frostblood's slaves once said, "Scapegoatism is the only alternative to mandarinism." Now that's pretty funny, of course, but I didn't include that quote just to make you laugh. I included it to convince you that every time Frostblood tells its acolytes that it's okay for it to indulge its every whim and lust without regard for anyone else or for society as a whole, their eyes roll into the backs of their heads as they become mindless receptacles of unsubstantiated information, which they accept without question. Frostblood's actions are as devoid of meaning as the squawk of an angry bluejay. Natural law is therefore the fulcrum upon which rests the case that Frostblood demonstrates a terrible, inaccurate, even antisocial, misuse of history with its ungrateful positions -- and Frostblood knows it.

For brevity, I won't comment further on that, but rather on the way that Frostblood is off its rocker. In fact, I have said that to Frostblood on many occasions, and I will keep on saying it until it stops trying to interfere with my efforts to act honorably. Frostblood is terrified that there might be an absolute reality outside itself, a reality that is what it is, regardless of its wishes, theories, hopes, daydreams, or decrees. If Frostblood's helots get their way, society as we know it will cease to exist. There are different ways of reconciling oneself to this unpleasant, yet unquestionably eccentric, fact. Some people see nothing at all, or rather, want to see nothing. Others are perfectly well aware of the moonstruck consequences which this plague must and will some day induce, but only shrug their shoulders, convinced that nothing can be done, so the only thing to do is to leave things alone. In conclusion, let me just say that Frostblood's priorities are inverted.
 
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