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[Diamonds] De Beers, Gemesis, Apollo, and the future of computing...

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by phatcat, Aug 12, 2003.

  1. phatcat

    phatcat akward cat

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    Just read a GREAT article about Diamonds and the future of computer technology :)





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    David Clugston
    Yellow diamonds manufactured by Gemesis, the first company to market gem-quality synthetic stones. The largest grow to 3 carats.


     
  2. Swarthy_Foreskin

    Swarthy_Foreskin Retarderator

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    I just read this in the latest wired. It's actually the cover story and very interesting. Plus the cover image is sexy.
     
  3. DRT-Maverick

    DRT-Maverick Lover of Earwigs

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    How do they turn the wafers of diamond into semiconductors? I mean, what shape, what procedure?
     
  4. phatcat

    phatcat akward cat

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    they introduce channels of positive and negativly charged boron to create the circuits while the diamond is formed.
     
  5. Kray

    Kray Time chaser

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    Great article phatcat! Thanks for sharing. :tup:
     
  6. iridium

    iridium ... loves Mr. Lamppost

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    yah, was up all night reading about this on wired.. very cool stuff. or hot stuff. might be a while before we see it in actual circuits though..
     
  7. DeDpoet|BuF

    DeDpoet|BuF Only this, & nothing more...

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    diamond semiconductor processors run hot eh? I'm thinking cooling and heat dissipation. what do you do when your USB connection melts?

    sounds very cool though. I also like how the reference was made "soon we wil have Intel diamond processors." yes, Intel of course - who else? ;)
     
  8. Zarkazm

    Zarkazm <img src="http://forums.beyondunreal.com/images/sm

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    Cool! I want a CPU necklace! :)
     
  9. Lynz`

    Lynz` help me think of a new title.

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    hmm... hope this don't come soon.

    i want my diamond jewellery brought... not made. especially the ring :mwink:
     
  10. .altan

    .altan Tomorrow

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    Now watch the prices of computers jump sky-high :p
     
  11. Gundato

    Gundato Wangosaurus Rex

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    lynz, i am sure that they will still sell real diamonds, probably just at a much higher rate :D

    and that is a nice article :p
     
  12. Zarkazm

    Zarkazm <img src="http://forums.beyondunreal.com/images/sm

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    How would the price of natural diamonds rise after it's possible to produce nearly perfect artificial diamonds now?
     
  13. phatcat

    phatcat akward cat

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    it really make it hard :p
    the Gemesis diamons are very close to natural diamon growth, but have slight flaws, while Apollo diamons are far to perfect to be natural. Natural diamons would be VERY hard to destinguish, and would really hurt the de Beers company/mob/warlords greatly.
     
  14. Gundato

    Gundato Wangosaurus Rex

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    then you just go "authentic natural diamonds" and bam, more cash.
     
  15. Chipstick

    Chipstick Get me a beer from the fridge now!Flooks

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    Wait until you can utilise these ones

    LifeGem

    Then we can all have a ghost in the machine.

    I can get cheap diamonds @ manufacters prices ;)
     
  16. phatcat

    phatcat akward cat

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    wow that would be awsome!! :D
    I can imagine Geeks selling their remains to their favorite microprocessor company to be used in chips! :)
     
  17. iridium

    iridium ... loves Mr. Lamppost

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    Bwahah
     
  18. phatcat

    phatcat akward cat

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    or you could do a soylent green scenario. :D

    Soylent Chips are made of PEOPLE!!!!!!! :eek:
     
  19. Sam_The_Man

    Sam_The_Man I am the Hugh Grant of Thatcherism

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    Not really, they're already as 'authentic' as they can be. What artificial, mass-produced diamonds would do would be to reduce the price of low-carat diamonds, thus making them more attractive, and thus forcing the manufacturers of higher-carat diamonds to reduce their prices, otherwise they lose business to low-carat diamonds.
     
  20. Zarkazm

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    I think you misunderstand the situation. The producers of artificial diamonds very much intend to sell them cheaper than natural ones. If they sold them at the same price, people wouldn't feel stronly compelled to buy them.

    So there will be "cheap" artificial diamonds and expensive natural diamonds on the market. Do you seriously want to tell me in that situation it'd be a good idea to raise the price for natural diamonds, and increase the gap? And neither does anyone else. :p


    Hmm, I'm not sure about that Karat thing. I think the Karat value of a natural and artificial diamond of the same size is also the same. But of course with smaller brilliants that are used en masse it's not as relevant if they are natural or artificial as with a big 3 Karat stone in the middle of a wedding ring. Of course, the argument "people who really love each other buy the real thing" is just shameless. I can imagine some very creative uses of mass produced large diamonds. I think they can even colour them at will. That'd be awesome. I want a diamond ring. No, not a ring with a diamond in it.

    And as it has been mentioned before, those Apollo diamonds are practically not to distinguish from the real thing unless you really look for it. I don't think the modern labs would perform such an extensive search at the current price. That means they'd charge more for making sure a diamond isn't an Apollo, and since only diamonds above a certain size a sent in for certification already, only really large diamonds would be worth certifying they are definitelly natural. And how much are people willing to pay for a natural diamond over an artificial one? Most people... not too much.
     
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