*cries tears of joy*

[Lukasz]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/354/354792p1.html

The game that brought me into realistic fps, and pc fps in general, is finally getting a sequel, weeee!

I don't care if there are no iron sights, or whatever realistic things inf has and this game won't, it's gonna be great. Unreal 2 engine is a big encouragement. I have been waiting for another sequel forever, because I just love the story and the series. I'm sure many of you share that so I posted here (!!).

 

[ecale3]

*slaps manboy* stop crying damnit!

 

[Keganator]

How much you wanna be that they won't be making this 'fall' release?

 

[OpFor]

Meh, GR is more militaristic.. You would think by now everyone would be kinda tired of the same old CS type deal...

 

[RAZZ]

of course we want more!
why its the most popular online game of all time according to leading gamer magazines.

and the editors of said game magazines should know better than any player, right?

(anyways.. bout time redstorm realized they cant code an engin worth ****)

 

[Lukasz]

This ain't GR man (!!). I didn't like GR much. Beat it, played some awesome multiplayer with friends, then I found inf. Rainbow Six I will always love though. The story and CQB action is great. It's no CS either. I would put it right up there with Inf in realism if it had actual gun sights. Least they don't show the weapon in 1st person.

 

[{Ghetto_Ghepetto}]

Eh..I don't really like GR..You have to wait too long in the beginning to actually play, and I can't ever tell what I'm doing or where I'm going lol. I guess it just takes more time to get used to, but I already play games WAY too much (Not just INF. Sorry guys, I've been cheating on you). So another game might just ruin my teen days...

As to the new release of Rogue Spear, I'd say it looks promising. From the one picture I can't really tell much, but I think it looks very good.

 

[Sidewinder]

yea, that heartbeat sensor was the god of realism , not to mention prefirin leetness
i started with r6, and still go back for some memories

 

[asmodeus]

is it just me or the firing position they take in the screenie looks "akward"?

 

[MadWolf]

Noone liked Swat 3?
i liked it almost like R6
Curious to know what u think about it.
I am waiting Swat4, but i think it will be very unrealistic.
(i hate realistic games without 1st person weapons!!!!)
madwolf----><----programmer

 

[MeckonOmega]

Know what I liked, was not being able walk on small heeps of garbage, that made me jump for joy

and all that fun I had aiming without the perpixel aiming... man, I was taking downers just to keep from singing coom-by-ya....

and that those crosshairs were a bucket o' monkeys as well...

need I go on..... shhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

 

[DamienW]

Swat3 may have technical drawbacks, such as its crosshairs, but its tacics, variety of enemy behaviours and the fact that you had to arrest people, not exterminate them, made it superior to R6 IMO. At a first glance i loved R6, but i felt really wrong when they gave you assasination missions or when the mission whose objective was "infiltrate the terrorist lab" was in fact "kill all terrorists in the area"...
Plus what i looooved was the clever heartbeat sensor, which was accurate enough to differentiate the vilains (red dot) from the nice guys (white dots)... Not only was it unrealistic, but also very representative of Clancy's "Good vs Evil" ideology.....

 

[Wolf Being]

Amen

It was the exact same for me. I never even finished RS and uninstalled it after a month. The 'Exterminator' missions are fun a couple of times, but then they're just like killing monsters in Duke3d. A rush, but overall pretty lame, not to mention pretty unrealistic. The R6 series was much like clancy's books were from that one on: A good read, some good ideas, but a lot of pseudo-techno babble and easy on the brain black and white painting.

Did they even have bullet penetration modelled in R6? I can't remember any, but I might be wrong.

SWAT3 is the all time AI king, and good AI is good replay value. I can look at guns in my Jane's.

 

[Freon]

what's funny is that more ppl play Black Thorn (Rogue Spear) than Ghost Recon

From ubi.com :
Top Online Games
Rogue Spear: Black Thorn 542 Players
Ghost Recon 340 Players
...

 

[Cunubelin]

I have a question

What is this thread doing in the GENERAL Infiltration forum?

Just wondering

C

 

[Lukasz]

They actually have something like the Heartbeat Sensor in developement in real life. Remember these games are always set in the near future, so they can take some creative liberties. You know, depending on diffuculty, the sensor would stop differentiating between friend and foe. With the crazy aim AI they had, the sensor was pretty much needed to do anything, heh.

The original engine for the series sucks. It was awesome back when the first game came out (the first game of its kind), and acceptable for the second. I'm just glad they gave up making their own, heh.

About the seek and destroy missions... That is what the team is for. They were the last resort. If you know the whole story behind the books/games, it makes perfect sense. They're not there to arrest people, hell they don't even exist. Read some AAR's on SEAL, SAS raids, and the like (here's one ). They sooo don't take prisoners in situations the game portrayed. Like I said, I like the story, heh.

Powered by a nice engine like Unreal 2, I trust in them to make a stunning game.

In closing, don't diss my Rainbow Six beeoches!

edit: oh, before you eat me alive.. I liked Swat 3 as well (!!). Urban Justice (kinda swat 3 3/4) looks kinda freaky, but hey, as long as it's realistic.

 

[shadowkil]

Well do I remember a hoax heartbeat sensor that got pretty darned far before it was debunked - is anybody having any luck developing a real one? =b

 

[Wolf Being]

They used a 'heartbeat sensor' of sorts to look for victims in the rubble after the Oklahoma McVeigh bombing. IIRC it didn't function anything like the one Clancy described in R6, though. It was more like a land-based passive sonar. Everybody would have to be real quiet while it was used and it would detect any sort of human noise. Apparently it's capable of detecting a person's heartbeat through rubble and debris. I don't know how succesful it's deployment was though.

On a military level there's of course the 'people sniffer' of Vietnam, um, fame.

 

[Night Hawk]

I have played RS and SWAT 3, but i liked RS better. maby thats because i love Tom Clancy story's
I haven't played GR, cause it doesn't support voodoo carts at least not voodoo 2 carts
Think i go and get a new computer next summer

 

[Spetznaz_1]

Originally posted by Keganator
How much you wanna be that they won't be making this 'fall' release?

They actually made the release of GR a week before scheduled. So it is possible for them to make the fall release. However, like most games, there is a chance that it will be delayed.