Can you beat Godlike bots?

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Arnox

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Can you own them? And if so, can you win even if all the bots have max settings?

They definitely are much more hard than their UT99 cousins IMO. Still can't beat them in UT2004. Score with them always seems to end with:

Arnox: 13
Bot: 25 (Frag Limit)
 

Fuzzle

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The biggest aspect you can take advantage of is that bots don't know how to time powerups. I can't beat them in a fair fight, but it's easy to just romp around with 150s and 199hp while just taking a couple flak shells to the face.
 

Arnox

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I would not even dare to go beyond Adept (especially all max settings) since they are all aimbots...eck...that is suicide...

At least you managed to have more frags on Godlike than me.

I heard UT3 is harder than UT2004's AI.

Heh, I'll admit that I turned off the shock rifle when I was dueling a max godlike with almost all weapons given and infinite ammo on DM-GaelRedux. The bot cheats so much with that weapon that it becomes completely unfair and impossible to win. All the other weapons are OK though.
 
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JohnDoe641

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I haven't played 2k4 in a long time but the bots were terrible in that game, especially at godlike. When I was in college and they had blocked the ports for 2k4 I was stuck playing the crappy bots until they opened up the ports again. What a boring experience. :/

In order to try and stay at the play level I was at, I needed at least four bots, 1v1 godlike bots was just dumb and boringly predictable, I think the UT bots were much better at giving me a hard time as far as 1v1 goes.

From long ago:
mychallengeironic.jpg

Low score, but it's kinda hard to avoid getting gang raped with their flak.

mychallengecampgrounds.jpg

Another low scoring round, but that's the point, stay alive and deny giving them any points while you up your own.

deckchallenge.jpg

A really good example of how stupid the bots were. They kept knocking me into the lava and I'd die, but I did the exact same things to them. I eventually learned where to not go after dying from lava dips, but of course, the bots don't, hence the messed up scores.

Doug, the UT3 bot ai is almost as bad as 2k4's, but they've made some improvements in making them slightly random, but I can still guess where they will be 95% of the time which makes for rather dull play with 0 benefits. They're also still no where near as good as a human can play. :c

If you want to see good UT3 players, join me and the remaining competitive players in #ut3pugs on gameradius and pug up if you ever decide to get UT3. D:
 

Arnox

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I haven't played 2k4 in a long time but the bots were terrible in that game, especially at godlike. When I was in college and they had blocked the ports for 2k4 I was stuck playing the crappy bots until they opened up the ports again. What a boring experience. :/

In order to try and stay at the play level I was at, I needed at least four bots, 1v1 godlike bots was just dumb and boringly predictable, I think the UT bots were much better at giving me a hard time as far as 1v1 goes.
The UT99 bots gave you a hard time?
...

I will post some pics of me owning a Max God (what I, now, dub godlike bots at max settings) in DM-Tempest and DM-Morbias. I have a lot of pictures. ;)
 

JohnDoe641

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No, not really, but they were much more fun to play than the 2k3/2k4 bots ever were. The way they handled the weapons seemed much better.
 

GreatEmerald

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I play on Masterful, it gives me just the right challenge. Though at this level, I keep winning in ONS/VCTF and losing in DM/TDM because bots don't know what teamwork is.

Basically Masterful is the bot that has all its abilities enabled but doesn't quite cheat yet, just has good aim.
 

Turbo K

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I haven't played 2k4 in a long time but the bots were terrible in that game, especially at godlike. When I was in college and they had blocked the ports for 2k4 I was stuck playing the crappy bots until they opened up the ports again. What a boring experience. :/

In order to try and stay at the play level I was at, I needed at least four bots, 1v1 godlike bots was just dumb and boringly predictable, I think the UT bots were much better at giving me a hard time as far as 1v1 goes.

From long ago:
mychallengeironic.jpg

Low score, but it's kinda hard to avoid getting gang raped with their flak.

mychallengecampgrounds.jpg

Another low scoring round, but that's the point, stay alive and deny giving them any points while you up your own.

deckchallenge.jpg

A really good example of how stupid the bots were. They kept knocking me into the lava and I'd die, but I did the exact same things to them. I eventually learned where to not go after dying from lava dips, but of course, the bots don't, hence the messed up scores.

Doug, the UT3 bot ai is almost as bad as 2k4's, but they've made some improvements in making them slightly random, but I can still guess where they will be 95% of the time which makes for rather dull play with 0 benefits. They're also still no where near as good as a human can play. :c

If you want to see good UT3 players, join me and the remaining competitive players in #ut3pugs on gameradius and pug up if you ever decide to get UT3. D:

You did good, but TDM 1 against more than 1 is a lot easier than regular DM.
 

Arnox

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You did good, but TDM 1 against more than 1 is a lot easier than regular DM.
Listen to me now.

Don't do crack.

Anyway, I finally beat him though but I had to make excessive use of the Minigun at long distances. Would you call that cheating?

Arnox: 25 (Frag Limit)
Bot: 20
 
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Sportaçus

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Being able to shoot them with the Minigun and get kills from a long distance is pretty good, considering how they dodge the bullets from it.
 

Defeat

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No, not really, but they were much more fun to play than the 2k3/2k4 bots ever were. The way they handled the weapons seemed much better.

^This. And I've never had a problem beating Godlike bots in any game mode in 2k4 past the first few months I got the game. Just don't get close to them so they can't use link or flak and you've won.
 

~Psycho~

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When I play SP I'm usually just messing around, so I leave the bots around adept. However, the times I've tried godlike I didn't find it too hard. Bots in general are just too predictable.

And what Great Emerald said about cheating bots, yes I don't like the way their bullets do more damage at high levels... they should only get more tactical and better aim etc., not super powers!
 
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Arnox

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When I play SP I'm usually just messing around, so I leave the bots around adept. However, the times I've tried godlike I didn't find it too hard. Bots in general are just too predictable.

And what Great Emerald said about cheating bots, yes I don't like the way their bullets do more damage at high levels... they should only get more tactical and better aim etc., not super powers!

Oh, and they do something else that's pretty funny too. Instant missile lock-ons. I'm not kidding here. Do a rocket launcher arena and see.
 

TurdDrive

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I always and will completely OBLITERATE Godlike bots BUT ONLY when im using BW Mod. :lol:

But I did complete the campaign on Masterful difficulty.
 

Defeat

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When I play SP I'm usually just messing around, so I leave the bots around adept. However, the times I've tried godlike I didn't find it too hard. Bots in general are just too predictable.

And what Great Emerald said about cheating bots, yes I don't like the way their bullets do more damage at high levels... they should only get more tactical and better aim etc., not super powers!

Their weapons don't do more damage. The only thing they really cheat at is movement and of course aiming.
 

JohnDoe641

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Their weapons don't do more damage. The only thing they really cheat at is movement and of course aiming.
Indeed.

The bots at lower levels do less damage than yours would, so maybe that's why he thought they did more at higher levels due to their stupid aim.