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No, because you couldn't have killed your father in the first place if you didn't exist. All it means is that you won't be born... big deal. You obviously are physically manifested, as you killed your father, so all it means is that future you won't be born. How would that mean your current state would cease to exist?
Sure time travel is possible. Time travellers call the Coast to Coast AM radio show all the time, in between alien and bigfoot stories.
Look, the real question is that if you went back in time and had butt seckz with your father, and turned him gay, would you be born, or would you have to sneak off with some of his genetic material after giving him a decent reach-around and bring it to a fertilization clinic? I really don't know, but I'll tell you this: it keeps me up at night.
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Primer is a great movie.
GotBeer I love that talk show. I stay up for about 1 hour and 30 minutes to listen to it everynight.
I see what sparrow is saying, not the buttseckz thing. It's a little hard to grasp the concept of you killing your father, one of the two people that made you come into this world and you still having a physical form. Doesn't mean you wouldn't have been born either. If by chance you were meant to be here then that wouldn't mean you would not have been born entirely but maybe another family concepted you at birth instead of the family you were supposed to be with but you killed them. Now my brain hurts.
GotBeer I love that talk show. I stay up for about 1 hour and 30 minutes to listen to it everynight.
I see what sparrow is saying, not the buttseckz thing. It's a little hard to grasp the concept of you killing your father, one of the two people that made you come into this world and you still having a physical form. Doesn't mean you wouldn't have been born either. If by chance you were meant to be here then that wouldn't mean you would not have been born entirely but maybe another family concepted you at birth instead of the family you were supposed to be with but you killed them. Now my brain hurts.
If you did go back and kill your dad then that must mean you can still be in a physical form. What that physical form would be no one knows, but you wouldn't cease to exist.
OK, now we've decided killing your dad does sod all, what happens if you go back in time and kill yourself?
There is no real way to make it easier. Even the things you type are overly complicated and your 168468186161681 times smarter than anyone here.[pet]sparrow said:
Alright then, let me word it this way: If you went back in time a few million/billion years and squashed some prehistoric bugs, would our future currently be different? I doesn't mean all of a sudden humans wouldn't exist or anything quite that dramatic, but history would have changed, and thus the future would have had to.
Now, take a slightly less extreme example: If you went back in time to around the time you were convcieved, and even if you didn't actually talk to anyone or interact with anything sentient, would the future have changed? Certainly, though not very dramatically. However, none the less, the future would have changed in some minute way, and your future self would be getting in his time machine in a -different- future than the one you originally came from.
The second you propose Person A going back in time, it is the second that the timeline from the eyes of Person A and the timeline of his current present become seperate. What has happened in the current timeline from the eyes of Person A is completely moot, as he has entered a seperate timeline as soon as he is back in time, whereas the "current timeline" from which he originated is simply and suddenly missing a Person A, because that timeline cannot exist if a Person A also existed in its past. And before you state, "How can a few footprints left on the ground mean that Person A isn't born", keep in mind that even though another person exactly like Person A most likely will be born, it still isn't the exact same future, and thus he -isn't- Person A; He's simply identical.
Now, take a slightly less extreme example: If you went back in time to around the time you were convcieved, and even if you didn't actually talk to anyone or interact with anything sentient, would the future have changed? Certainly, though not very dramatically. However, none the less, the future would have changed in some minute way, and your future self would be getting in his time machine in a -different- future than the one you originally came from.
The second you propose Person A going back in time, it is the second that the timeline from the eyes of Person A and the timeline of his current present become seperate. What has happened in the current timeline from the eyes of Person A is completely moot, as he has entered a seperate timeline as soon as he is back in time, whereas the "current timeline" from which he originated is simply and suddenly missing a Person A, because that timeline cannot exist if a Person A also existed in its past. And before you state, "How can a few footprints left on the ground mean that Person A isn't born", keep in mind that even though another person exactly like Person A most likely will be born, it still isn't the exact same future, and thus he -isn't- Person A; He's simply identical.
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Okay, let me put it this way:
Makes more sense now? Thusly, if Person A killed the father when he goes back in time, he's killing Person B's father, and thus Person A will continue to exist in Timeline B, because he was born in Timeline A.
Edit: In retrospect, I suppose Person A would also be in Timeline C with Person B, though since it's another timeline with a changed history, Person A would become Person D for reference sake, and I think that'd confuse the point I'm trying to make, so let's overlook that for now. =p
Makes more sense now? Thusly, if Person A killed the father when he goes back in time, he's killing Person B's father, and thus Person A will continue to exist in Timeline B, because he was born in Timeline A.
Edit: In retrospect, I suppose Person A would also be in Timeline C with Person B, though since it's another timeline with a changed history, Person A would become Person D for reference sake, and I think that'd confuse the point I'm trying to make, so let's overlook that for now. =p
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Sir_Brizz said:
If your current timeline had "you" going back in time already, before you are born, then you wouldn't be in the first iteration of the timeline cycle. As such, you going back in time would only result in you encountering all the previous "you"'s that had already gone back, as you going back in time wouldn't make the "you"'s that had been there before you simply disappear. This, of course, leads to the question of just how in the hell such time travel would work, as you would most likely be getting out of your time-machine/whatever at the same time as the previous iteration of you, hopefully resulting in a telefragging (nothing like fresh gibs in the morning). Going from a pointless and groundless arguement to an even less founded one, I'd imagine such timetravel would result in matter displacement, as you cannot create or destroy matter, which would mean that whatever is where you would be when you arrive at your destination would be swapped to where you originated from, which would mean that the "you" before you gets sent forward to when you went back.
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