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yep yep yephal said:
anyone that disagrees should watch the video I posted and replace the guy's head with a baby.
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so, i guess if you've got a newborn child, you shouldn't have a dog? after all, dogs CAN kill people, even if you trust them...
it seems stupid because it's what the media like to do, make celebritys look dumb. when in fact, it's no different to having a baby in the room when you feed the dog. the baby is just as much at risk i think
it seems stupid because it's what the media like to do, make celebritys look dumb. when in fact, it's no different to having a baby in the room when you feed the dog. the baby is just as much at risk i think
Syri said:
No. Having a dog is what is considered by most of the world as a reasonable risk. Nearly all domesticated canines are harmless to human infants. Those that do have a small chance of aggressiveness should either be avoided, monitored, or trained.
You can't say that about crocodiles. Waving him around in front of a gigantic reptile that happens to love eating animals just about that size isn't a normal, or accepted, risk.
Say what you like about Steve's right to do that, or whatever. It just isn't a necessary or acceptable risk.
i dont think that what he did was necessarily an intelligent thing to do, it was a risk that i dont think needed to be taken. but, because he has so much experience around them i dont think that the child was in as much danger as if some average joe off the street had done it. basically i dont think that he should be punished or sent to trial in any way for what he did. its not like he was waving the baby over the mouth of the croc saying "come get it" or anything.
Reptiles aren't the same as mamals they are dumber. I have a python, and I woud never let any sort of baby anywhere near it, its a dumb thing to do.
On the flip side of it when I was little I grew up around a doberman, while they can kill an infant easily they aren't just big dumb eating machines like reptiles, so I find that acpetable.
On the flip side of it when I was little I grew up around a doberman, while they can kill an infant easily they aren't just big dumb eating machines like reptiles, so I find that acpetable.
Syri said:
As mentioned above, a dog and crocodile have totally different risk levels. The doberman isn't liable to tear apart the baby. But say you have a crazy ass rottweiler or pit bull, probably wouldn't be comfortable with your baby around it, because its made to jack things up.
I would say another issue is your ability to interviene with said animal.
IE your house cat or pet dog are both capable of killing an infant, but a grow adult is also capable of stoping any sort of problem. My nephew bit my brothers dog when he was little, hard enough to cause the dog to bite the kid and fight back. So my brother jumped in and broke it up before it got dangerous.
He had that luxury cause it was a dog, if a giant crocodile snaps your kid up you can't just jump in and fend it off that easy.
Even more important kids/babies are random to, they run wiggle and do all sorts of stupid stuff (like bitting the family dog).
And finaly there is a crocodials are known man eaters
IE your house cat or pet dog are both capable of killing an infant, but a grow adult is also capable of stoping any sort of problem. My nephew bit my brothers dog when he was little, hard enough to cause the dog to bite the kid and fight back. So my brother jumped in and broke it up before it got dangerous.
He had that luxury cause it was a dog, if a giant crocodile snaps your kid up you can't just jump in and fend it off that easy.
Even more important kids/babies are random to, they run wiggle and do all sorts of stupid stuff (like bitting the family dog).
And finaly there is a crocodials are known man eaters
Syri said:
lol you compared a dog to a crocodile.
Dude a hamster can kill me if it bites my jugular.
Anything can kill in theory. A f*ckin canary can fly into my throat and choke me to death. A crocodile though is 10000000x more dangerous/powerful/nasty/unpredictable/etc than a harmless domesticated animal who's chances of all of a sudden turning on you are close to nil.
thewalkingman said:
Awww, I had a hamster that looked exactly like that a few years ago. Her name was Mable. She was very cute and dumb and funny.
hal said:
What if this Steve Irwin guy was giving food to the croc with his right arm and holding his child in his left arm and to the side ? The chances of the child coming to harm are slim in this case and Steve is the one that's risking getting a chunk taken out of him.
I think these journalists simply want to make him look bad. Don't forget that these people seek any possible story and blow it out of proportion just to make a living.
I say nevermind the media coverage. If a normal, everyday guy would take his baby and dangle him/her over a live crocodile it would still be as wrong as what this dumbass did. He unnecessarely put his child's life at risk and there's no excuse for that.Fearless said:
Nobody desputes steve's skills with croc's he grew up with them, makes a living fighting them he knows what he is doing.
Yet all of us have seen him get bitten by a plethora of animals, ****e happens don't bring a baby into that situation.
And comparing an animal that can kill a full grown cow, to a dog.... it's not the same thing.
Really if anybody should be alowed to its probably steve, but conversly it shouldn't happen in the first place.
Granted its blown out of proportion and I don't think he should be charged for it, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a moron
Yet all of us have seen him get bitten by a plethora of animals, ****e happens don't bring a baby into that situation.
And comparing an animal that can kill a full grown cow, to a dog.... it's not the same thing.
Really if anybody should be alowed to its probably steve, but conversly it shouldn't happen in the first place.
Granted its blown out of proportion and I don't think he should be charged for it, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a moron
If a normal everyday guy couldn't program in C if his life depended on it, should we hold our children back from programming?novak said: