There have been a good number of religiously toned threads here, and none of them have really gone anywhere worth going. More recently I've noticed some recurring themes: Jacks, Firefly, and myself team up against Brizz and TWD while Vaskadar and Zxan chime in to say we should quit berating each other. The players shift around over time but the game remains the same.
We've been around this place long enough that we can't keep pretending it's just the principles we're interested in; we want to understand each other but haven't found a good way to do that.
I propose one simple rule: No rebuttals or debate of any kind. Each person is allowed to ask a question to the other side about the personal, subjective (non-factual and non-objective) value of belief or nonbelief to another person, and then the asker shuts the fuck up and listens.
Let me start by asking my most burning questions, addressed to all though I really hope the six posters I named answer:
I think if we follow the one rule this will be far and away the best loligion thread we've ever had.
We've been around this place long enough that we can't keep pretending it's just the principles we're interested in; we want to understand each other but haven't found a good way to do that.
I propose one simple rule: No rebuttals or debate of any kind. Each person is allowed to ask a question to the other side about the personal, subjective (non-factual and non-objective) value of belief or nonbelief to another person, and then the asker shuts the fuck up and listens.
Let me start by asking my most burning questions, addressed to all though I really hope the six posters I named answer:
- How do you find your religious or nonreligious leanings improve your life?
- Do you think there are any disadvantages to your personal outlook?
- How do you think your life might be different if you "switched sides"?
- Have you ever doubted your position? How seriously?
I think if we follow the one rule this will be far and away the best loligion thread we've ever had.