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I have never had any problems with windows-All issues I have had have been from the poorly built frame by Ibuypower (<---never get a comp from these guys). Otherwise, Windows XP has worked almost flawlessly. I install a game, play it, works, and if anything is wrong its always been the game's fault.
now Vista on the other hand...
now Vista on the other hand...
No. In my experience Vista is a more stable OS than XP. I've had it since it came out and it has honestly has never troubled me. XP seemed to have memory leaks or something when you left it on for over a week straight. Vista is still snappy as hell after a weeks uptime. And I can't recall any blue screens or lockups in my Vista career. Of course, this will all depend on your hardware configuration and drivers. Maybe I got lucky. Or maybe not. I know plenty of people who love Vista. I find that most of the complainers are people who have not even tried it, or have tried it only for a few minutes on a crappy Best Buy demo laptop.
Windows WILL crap out if you:
1) have multiple users.
2) install loads of stuff (most likely from #1).
3) don't properly maintain it (defrag, reformat once in a while, etc).
4) don't know how to properly build one (I've learned quite a few things not to
do).
5) buy it from a craptacular vendor like Dell or HP.
6) leave viruses and other crap on it for prolonged periods. Actually, if you're
smart, you'll keep them the hell off in the first place.
On the other hand, Apple WILL crap out if you:
1) do ANYTHING that wasn't specifically designed by Apple, for Apple.
And you know what you can do if something (I know, it's not possible, right Apple fanboys?) does go wrong?
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Buy a new one. For another couple grand.
1) have multiple users.
2) install loads of stuff (most likely from #1).
3) don't properly maintain it (defrag, reformat once in a while, etc).
4) don't know how to properly build one (I've learned quite a few things not to
do).
5) buy it from a craptacular vendor like Dell or HP.
6) leave viruses and other crap on it for prolonged periods. Actually, if you're
smart, you'll keep them the hell off in the first place.
On the other hand, Apple WILL crap out if you:
1) do ANYTHING that wasn't specifically designed by Apple, for Apple.
And you know what you can do if something (I know, it's not possible, right Apple fanboys?) does go wrong?
....
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..
.
Buy a new one. For another couple grand.
My answer to every problem is reformat. Can't get any more simple than that.
That only works if the issue is software based.
Hardware tech support on a PC is a nightmare within nightmares.
Hardware tech support on a PC is a nightmare within nightmares.
My friend cannot play Call of Duty 4 with me because his Vista is restricting some aspects of Punk buster.
The bull**** is strong with this one.
*edit* for clarification:
1- I have three users on my Vista box
2- tons of software
3- never defrag (defragging isnot overly useful in an ntfs environment)
4- people that want to build should be able to find numerous online guides on what to do
5- nothing wrong with either hp, or dell. Microsoft is actively working with these vendors to reduce 3rd party add ons
6- a/v software goes with the territory
-- My Macbook Pro has all sorts of non-apple software on it, and I use lots of 3rd party hardware as well. never had an issue. Hell, it even runs vista smoothly....
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I guess if you have a dual (or more) disk setup, you can consider it that.
The way my PC is set up right now, is one 74GB 10000rpm HD with installs of XP and Vista on it, and optional other software that I want to load really quickly.
Then there's the other 500GB 7200rpm disk, split in two partitions: One for games and software, the other for files and downloads.
If something goes wrong in terms of software, all I have to do is reformat the windows 'system' disk, and it's back up and running.
Combine that with a slipstreamed disk that pre-installs all the drivers and configs, and it's about as maintenance as it gets.
The way my PC is set up right now, is one 74GB 10000rpm HD with installs of XP and Vista on it, and optional other software that I want to load really quickly.
Then there's the other 500GB 7200rpm disk, split in two partitions: One for games and software, the other for files and downloads.
If something goes wrong in terms of software, all I have to do is reformat the windows 'system' disk, and it's back up and running.
Combine that with a slipstreamed disk that pre-installs all the drivers and configs, and it's about as maintenance as it gets.
It isn't but I just do it when things start to slow down too much for my liking.
I'm lazy and it's an easy fix.
I'm lazy and it's an easy fix.
The Truth is strong with this one!
Users don't migrate to Linux so they can play games. All sorts of strengths go with the OS territory of your choice.
Games are not as important to me as stability and the total lack of viruses, spyware and other naughty things that can compromise my business security. It makes more sense to me so I have chosen Mac as my tool of choice.
If I want to play games, then I'll use an OS or gaming system supported by my game of choice. Parallels cough cough...
Viruses still exist for Mac's... Don't throw that tired argument around.
They're just less prevalent than on PC.
They're just less prevalent than on PC.
My answer to every problem is reformat. Can't get any more simple than that.
AAAH! This is what I call crappy problem solving.
From observing other pc people around me I've come to the conclusion that the guys that solve everything with a reformat can hardly do anything pc-wise but install windows. Reformating and then putting all the crap that started your problems on your last install back on so that you'll get the same kind of problems after some time again gets you very high on my list of "not even allowed to come close to my 'puter"
@Balton: OR, in some cases (like mine), I can't be bothered fixing a waterfall of problems when I can just restore a clean backup. Often one problem in the OS or HDD itself causes multiple errors across your system, and fixing all of them AND the source is going to be a full day's work if not more. A reinstall takes 2 hours. At most.
You know, it's not like I dump everything into one virus-infested folder on C:\ and then copy that back after a clean install. If you make backups properly, and maintain the backups as well (virusscan them, keep them up to date, etc) then there's absolutely no problem. Especially with the dual disk system it's a breeze.
But I guess if you don't like quick-n'-easy fixes, then yes, it's very objectionable
By the way, why would I want to touch your 'puter?
To fix it?
You know, it's not like I dump everything into one virus-infested folder on C:\ and then copy that back after a clean install. If you make backups properly, and maintain the backups as well (virusscan them, keep them up to date, etc) then there's absolutely no problem. Especially with the dual disk system it's a breeze.
But I guess if you don't like quick-n'-easy fixes, then yes, it's very objectionable
By the way, why would I want to touch your 'puter?
To fix it?
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@Balton: OR, in some cases (like mine), I can't be bothered fixing a waterfall of problems when I can just restore a clean backup. Often one problem in the OS or HDD itself causes multiple errors across your system, and fixing all of them AND the source is going to be a full day's work if not more. A reinstall takes 2 hours. At most.
You know, it's not like I dump everything into one virus-infested folder on C:\ and then copy that back after a clean install. If you make backups properly, and maintain the backups as well (virusscan them, keep them up to date, etc) then there's absolutely no problem. Especially with the dual disk system it's a breeze.
But I guess if you don't like quick-n'-easy fixes, then yes, it's very objectionable
By the way, why would I want to touch your 'puter?
To fix it?
I think we just prefer different methods of fixing something. I like to know that I adressed a problem specificly and usually I learn alot more about computers(and windows) in the process of fixing that'll save me time in the future and gives me that edge over other troubleshooters.
From what you said it sounds like you're not belonging into that group of people I tried to describe. I was talking about "one-trick-ponys" and that one trick being format c: . These guys go out and meddle on other people's systems and most of the time(in case of friends and family... hell, even at work people asked me before they called troubleshoot) I am called afterwards to clean up the mess these idiots have left.
I don't know why you would want to touch my computer, I've got hoter things on the stove
-but I won't let people go onto my pc because they'll just install crap(pokerstars, goddamnit!) or click ads or leave cookies with their data.
No man, friends may use the family pc but not my pc.
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