Okay for now that is screw all those other engines and games that aren't even out yet no matter how good they look, sound and are said to be. Tribes 2....we have all seen the pictures for a year now and the game is finally out. Okay so you need a good Video Card to see the quality but still what about its Engine vs all the others? It is damn good from what I can see and they claim Unreal II is 100x better then the first (still hard to believe its not 100% instead) but what about Tribes 2? It looks at least 75x better then Unreal 1 did.