Recon
I'm really hoping this will be my last comment on the subject. Mason, what Lifesbane is saying is that from the beginning if Infiltration, ghost recon has been part of the game. That's just the way it is, just a fact.
You said, "...last time I checked, a spectator viewed the action but was unable to alter the physical outcome of a contest. People are merely taking advantage of the fact that you can talk(so you aren't bored stiff) when you are in spectator mode and now you are trying to pass it off as a legitimate strategy."
But, spectators ARE able to alter the outcome. Even if you disable the ability to key messages to your live teammates, there is a whole world of real-time voice com users who are talking to their live teammates after they are dead. Unless you disable spectator mode, or at least free-range camera mode, ghost recon is GOING to happen routinely. You just won't see it.
Yes, if you started with 2.75, you ARE new, sorry. I mean, it's not personal, it's just that Infiltration's roots are much deeper than that.
Here is a post I put on the SOB Servers forum that addresses these issues, and I hope (no promises, hehe) this will be the last from me on this. 2.75'ers are welcome to Infiltration, and I mean no disrespect to them in the following post. There's nothing wrong with having a later start date than some others, it's just that there is a lot of history you didn't see. I also see both sides of this argument, as you can see. And I also mean no disrespect to the Infiltration team by my comments regarding 2.75. It was commendable and appreciated that they went to the effort to bring a transitional version of Infiltration while we were awaiting 2.8X. It just didn't have the feel of Infiltration, and that was beyond their control. Here is the post:
DB has it right. Make it a server-side option. Those who want ghost recon can congregate on free-roaming ghosting servers, those who don't can meet on servers where it's disabled. Hell, I'll probably spend some time on both. I think it IS more hard-core realistic to go without, and there will likely be times when I am in the mood, and HAVE lots of time to spend waiting on a long-running map without ghost recon. But, I like the cooperation and teamwork that goes with the Inf-traditional recon, and when your time is limited, it's a Hell of a lot more fun. On another level up from keyboarding, it's just damned fun to get on RW (I used to use FireTalk, should have switched to RW a long time ago) and get to know the other players in the community. Yeah, you can talk to people and participate to a degree while you're dead without ghosting, but it's more seamless and more fun when you can just continue to work with your team even when you're dead. It's something we're all used to (those who have been around awhile) and it's not going to go away. Just make it an option and we can all happily go where we want.
And, 2.75??? Man, that wasn't even Infiltration. I appreciated the efforts of the Infiltration team, SOB Servers, et al, in bringing a transition game in anticipation of 2.8X, I really DID, but, frankly, I skipped 2.75 after trying it out two or three times. It was UT with transitional Inf weapons, period. Not Infiltration. Inf 2.6 and earlier was where Infiltration was at, where the community was born, and where I and a lot of others stayed until 2.85 just came out. If you cut your teeth on 2.75, you probably don't yet know a lot of the old school people, except maybe messaging on SOB and Infiltration forums. You're about to meet us on the field, Mouuuhaahaahaaaaaa!
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