Ehmm.. no - some original UT(99) maps had ads for fake companies in the Unreal Universe it didn destroy their designlol911 said:
Oh and + 100 to what Shrimp and fuegerstef said.
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Midway + In-Game Advertising
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Oh and + 100 to what Shrimp and fuegerstef said.
*ahem* ... UT'99-demo ... DM-Morpheus (sp?) had a gigantic ad for 3DFx ...
UT2kx ... starts with the nVidia- and Soundblaster-ads ...
So yes ... I see Epic implementing ads into the levels and main menu as well.
They may be one of the few independent developers, but they're definitely not untainted by this kind of crap.
I sure as hell don't want any in-game ads (period).
Just look at the 90-minute advert that was "I, Robot" ...
Heck ... a lot of B-movies have 'product-placement' (a cute word to say that they make characters use Brand X for no reason except that they get a bit of extra money)
And did all that in-movie advertising result in cheaper / better movies ?
Nope, we got even worse crap.
Games should be games not yet another medium that gets perverted into advertising-space just so a few PHB's can earn a few million more.
/me places Midway on the list of companies to avoid.
Hit them where it hurts.
Don't buy and support their games.(period)
UT2kx ... starts with the nVidia- and Soundblaster-ads ...
So yes ... I see Epic implementing ads into the levels and main menu as well.
They may be one of the few independent developers, but they're definitely not untainted by this kind of crap.
I sure as hell don't want any in-game ads (period).
Just look at the 90-minute advert that was "I, Robot" ...
Heck ... a lot of B-movies have 'product-placement' (a cute word to say that they make characters use Brand X for no reason except that they get a bit of extra money)
And did all that in-movie advertising result in cheaper / better movies ?
Nope, we got even worse crap.
Games should be games not yet another medium that gets perverted into advertising-space just so a few PHB's can earn a few million more.
/me places Midway on the list of companies to avoid.
Hit them where it hurts.
Don't buy and support their games.(period)
It doesn't matter. All the companies will see is money. "We put advertising in and people still buy it, therefore we can go even further".Kyllian said:
NO. The best thing you can do is NOT buy it.
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Advertising doesn't work.
Agreed 100%. I don't watch TV any more, the crappy commercialism is a big reason (that and the utter lack of anything that isn't trash). Gaming is a retreat from that.
I won't buy games with advertising. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory's in-game advertising was borderline offensive, and if I'd known about it before I bought it, it would have stayed on the shelf.
ilkman said:
Agreed 100%. I don't watch TV any more, the crappy commercialism is a big reason (that and the utter lack of anything that isn't trash). Gaming is a retreat from that.
I won't buy games with advertising. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory's in-game advertising was borderline offensive, and if I'd known about it before I bought it, it would have stayed on the shelf.
communist said:Ehmm.. no - some original UT(99) maps had ads for fake companies in the Unreal Universe it didn destroy their design
Fake is different. Fake is apart of the creator's vision... though some people have said "if they could make the ad feel appropriate"... though I doubt real-life ads could be made appropriate in any game. Though I guess it's possible in certain cases...
I still wouldn't buy it though, out of principle -- it's a slippery slope when streaming ads come to video games.
Consider this :
the point of ads is to be noticed ...
there's no point in trying to make them look innocent because that defeats the point of it being an advertisement in the first place
There are no subtle ads. There's only annoying and extremely annoying.
Valve could easily adapt the Steam-system for advertisements with no chance to block it as it would involve blocking steam itself and thus disable the game itself.
the point of ads is to be noticed ...
there's no point in trying to make them look innocent because that defeats the point of it being an advertisement in the first place
There are no subtle ads. There's only annoying and extremely annoying.
Exactly. They've already got your money ... and if they're going to do anything then it's find methods to somehow make it illegal to block commercials. They're already planning on doing this to tv (which is why 'they' want us to use digital tv so badly ... ).Nemephosis said:
Valve could easily adapt the Steam-system for advertisements with no chance to block it as it would involve blocking steam itself and thus disable the game itself.
i first saw in-game ads in burnout 3 on xbox. back then it made me lose the race because i was so distracted and irritated by battlefield ads that i crashed into a wall.
while this game has a more or less realistic setting ads did still ruin some of the atmosphere in these areas - so i can just agree: it would definitely destroy the atmosphere of a ut map...
while this game has a more or less realistic setting ads did still ruin some of the atmosphere in these areas - so i can just agree: it would definitely destroy the atmosphere of a ut map...
JaFO said:
That's entirely different. You're talking about a free demo and a 5 second opening sequence that can be bypassed. You can't leap from that to something that would invade the retail game itself.
I'm going on record saying that it ain't happening. If I'm wrong, I'll write an article against it.
JaFO said:
Then change the channel or turn the TV off. What are they going to do to me, disable the ability to turn off my TV?
I certainly hope not. However, let's not forget that someone managed to get ads served into SWAT4 which is Unreal Engine based. It's not like there isn't a precedent for it.
I'm quite sure Epic is well aware that they would alienate a large portion of the userbase if they did this. As it is, most people are going to have to upgrade somewhat for 2k7, to do that for something with advertising is salt in the wound.
I'm quite sure Epic is well aware that they would alienate a large portion of the userbase if they did this. As it is, most people are going to have to upgrade somewhat for 2k7, to do that for something with advertising is salt in the wound.
hal said:
people are far too adicted to them as it is so it wont turn people away from them at all! Maybe they could cut the monthly fee altogether like the free ad-suported version of Anarchy online.
If any ads were to make it into UT2007 it should be fake ads that are updated regularly on an epic site somewhere.
That could be cool.
That could be cool.
I think it fits in that sense and it works well for both developer an publisher. Believe me... Epic wouldn't do anything to its game that it didn't want to do. They could have gone with any publisher easily, but chose Midway, and I'm sure they have full control over their ip.
In my opinion, it wouldn't surprise me for Midway to place a couple of ads in the game -- and frankly I don't really care all too much.hal said:
I know, this is odd coming from the person who groans in annoyance at the advertisements every time he puts his damn BigLebowski DVD in his Xbox... but advertisements in videogames CAN be done correctly if its implemented correctly.
What's going to turn people off is if it leaps around like a Jack Russell Terrier making damn good and sure it got your attention. Video ads in the round loading screen? No. An ad on a single isolated subway poster? Whatever. A newspaper on a bench with an ad on the page? Whatever.
If the savings are passed to the End-User even if its just 10$ off, go ahead with the non-intrusive ads. But if the price-point of games are still going to rise and if the advertisements will hump your eyesockets -- no.
... and if they invade mods? Go **** yourselves.
If they do put advertising boards in game, I will personaly remove them In the editor and re release all the maps