I might be off to jail.

[Rostam]

Partially off topic. But I was looking for a stick that I could fold and carry around. If **** hits the fan, I'd much rather have a stick 1 meter long than anything else (well, except a stick 2 meters long) since it makes self defence very, very easy. Not that I need it, but I figured if it's easy to make or cheap to buy I should consider doing so.

 

[Vega-don]

I took the advice from many and talked to a lawyer this morning. He tells me there is no way in hell I'm going to jail for this. And so my heart rate has dropped to something that might be considered normal

As far as I know, the incident is still in the investigation-stage and I haven't been charged with anything, which is good. Knowing how the police here work, being undermanned and underpaid, an investigation could take months and I'm still going to be a bit nervous until I get the final word that no charges will be brought against me. If anyone should go to jail for this, it's the guys who tried to rob me.

Edit : Yeah, I'm a bit worried that they might try to get back at me, especially if they are in one of the two major gangs in Oslo. However, I refuse to spend my time being afraid of someone and what they might try to do. Guns are not as easy to come by in this country as they are elsewhere, so an attack will most likely come in the form of a knife or similar. I think I'm as prepaired as I can be for something like that. It's "easier" to handle a knife at point blank than a gun, 20 meteres away. Not that there's anything easy about being attacked, with any form of weapon. It's out the question to start carrying a weapon myself though

i dont think they are hardcore gang members since they were after your phone + money , but everything is possible

if you dont want to carry a weapon : try to avoid the place where the fight occured, and look around you. it might sound paranoid but if they attack you its better for you to see them coming, so look behind you all the time .
and run because hand vs knife is a bad thing

 

[Zundfolge]

Partially off topic. But I was looking for a stick that I could fold and carry around. If **** hits the fan, I'd much rather have a stick 1 meter long than anything else (well, except a stick 2 meters long) since it makes self defence very, very easy. Not that I need it, but I figured if it's easy to make or cheap to buy I should consider doing so.

Don't know about the legality where you live but it sounds like you want an Asp.

here's one site with them http://www.uws.com/ASPBATONS/HomePage.html

 

[Rostam]

Thanks zundy, I am pretty sure they are legal (it's legal to carry knives so I don't see how this would not be, still, I'll need to check). 16'' means 16 inch? That's 40cm, not that long, but perhaps a stick of 40 or 60cm with a quality build makes more sense than having a longer one that would break easily.

/me googles for more info

 

[Crazy_Ivan]

Check your local laws for that

In holland you can't carry a Maglite 6 (6xfat batteries) around in public (considered a weapon because of the length), while a Maglite 4/rechargable (4xfat batteries or NiMH accu, not that much lighter and only a few cm shorter) is legal.

IMHO that is more effective compared to a extendable club: shine in the eyes and whack the thug with the back end

 

[Rostam]

I have a maglite but I'm not walking around with one. The entire idea of an extendable baton is that you can carry it in the inside of your coat where you will barely feel the weight.

 

[Profe]

gg on kicking that guy's ass , hope things work out in your favor.

 

[5eleven]

Zundy instaposted me. ASP's come in various lengths and materials. They also have scabbards for them that fit easily on a belt. And I can tell you, that they may not look like much in length, but they hurt like hell if you get hit with one. I gave Bush one for a present last year, mebbe two years ago.

 

[Zundfolge]

...IMHO that is more effective compared to a extendable club: shine in the eyes and whack the thug with the back end

I'm sure that a Surefire flashlight is legal to carry anywhere and they are bright enough to momentarily incapacitate a would-be attacker long enough to get away from them (or take them out with an kick to the inside of the knee)

 

[Pipe_Dream]

I spend the next four hours at the policestation answering questions about everything from my civil status to my shoe size.

Good job breaking his f*cking finger, f*ck the worm peice of sh*t!!!

Rule 1.26 It sucks, but don't say ANYTHING. Request/call a lawyer. Even though you were correct in your actions, my experience has been that they (Jonny and friend/s) have a way of turning sh*t around. By not making a statement is a good way of not getting recolections twisted.

 

[DEFkon]

I don't know your age, but you could consider a walking stick. may not be something you can "hide" but i doubt that a man with a cane (and fake limp) would draw that much attention. but then again if your a whipper snapper, you'll probably look like a fool.

 

[Harrm]

I don't know your age, but you could consider a walking stick. may not be something you can "hide" but i doubt that a man with a cane (and fake limp) would draw that much attention. but then again if your a whipper snapper, you'll probably look like a fool.

I once saw a guy in downtown New Britain on two crutches and major bracers in his leg mugged by 4 men. Yes, I hate my town ladies and gentlemen.

--Harrm

 

[Keganator]

A fool...or ultra-hip.

 

[Taque]

I'd pay to see someone Almost's age with a walking stick ... and monocle.

Disclaimer: Not really.

 

[Crazy_Ivan]

I'm sure that a Surefire flashlight is legal to carry anywhere and they are bright enough to momentarily incapacitate a would-be attacker long enough to get away from them (or take them out with an kick to the inside of the knee)

As long as it's under 35cm or so (could be 38 cm) you can carry it legally, over that size it's a weapon and will get you in more trouble when the thug decides to sue you

 

[AlmostAlive]

Hah, Yeah. I'm pretty old. More pretty than old though
Seriously, I'm 32.

Carrying something like the suggested baton would be breaking the law in this country as far as I know. It's never been an issue though, so I haven't taken the time to make sure so I could be wrong. Carrying a knife is definately illegal. I don't think carrying a weapon is an option for me. I'm not even sure I would if I could.

 

[-Freshmeat]

Carrying a knife is definately illegal. I don't think carrying a weapon is an option for me. I'm not even sure I would if I could.

I think you're cool.

-Freshmeat

 

[Zundfolge]

As long as it's under 35cm or so (could be 38 cm) you can carry it legally, over that size it's a weapon and will get you in more trouble when the thug decides to sue you

Surefire flashlights are like 5"-6" (12-15cm) long, so that shouldn't be a problem

 

[JaFO]

*eh* I guess it's easy to ignore the fact that even if that ASP is 'short' it still is a weapon.
AFAIK 'real' weapons and especially concealable weapons like that thing are definitely illegal. It would be referred to as a 'ploertendoder' (literally 'thug-killer' ) and be classed as a category I weapon. To be 'legal' it would have to be category 4 and those are things that are not designed to be weapons (ie : the flashlight)

http://www.adola.nl/adola/wapenwet.htm
I'm not sure how up-to-date it really is, but I'd think it is.

 

[Crazy_Ivan]

that's mostly the 'steekwapens' category (knifes, sharpened screwdrivers, stuff like that). Maglite is 'slagwapen' category (ie: clubs)

that site has only the stuff concerning knives