All right, Let's see what we have...
UY:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>What country are you from where guns are illegal? How large a country is it and how does it compare to the US for it's personal freedoms. How easy do you think it would be to de-arm citizens of the US? How could this be accomplished?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just like Blow__Smoke I'm from the Netherlands, but guns are illegal in all of Europe. Compared to the US in personal freedoms, I can say that we are at least as free, I think we have more laws governing things, but a less strict enforcement of those laws. It will be an immense task to disarm the citizens of the US and this is not a task which is accomplished overnight. I think the mentality has to change to start with.
Let me give a few examples:
UY:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>The guns are here. Im here. The crooks have them and they use them...
But if the crooks have them, I'll have one too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In holland the criminals have guns too, but that doesn't mean that everybody goes and buys a gun, we have police to deal with criminals.
Then LiquiD_SiN says:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Bottom line is this isnt really about guns, its about rights. Give one up and the next is soon to follow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So you think it's your right to carry a device which is designed solely for the purpose of killing people ?
Apparantly you don't trust your government, which is a problem which must be solved.
Let me give an example, if here in holland, or any other european country a fundamental right were to be taken away, all hell would brake loose, and people would be very upset, and through a process called democracy we'd fight to get the decission reversed, what do you think the free press is for?
(you're still with me? I'm almost done )
There is one quote I want to end with, it is trinity saying:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>...when gun-control advocates talk about crime, they assume that no guns=no crime.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think it should be "no guns=less lethal crimes/accidents".
Again, I don't want to offend anyone, and I hope it doesn't sound to patronizing, I'd just like to have you (americans) see it through the eyes of someone else who sees things from a distance, and isn't to emotionally attached.
"I'll be back"
-+- I am the SlachterUnit3000 -+-
[This message has been edited by SlachterUnit3k (edited 06-17-2000).]
UY:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>What country are you from where guns are illegal? How large a country is it and how does it compare to the US for it's personal freedoms. How easy do you think it would be to de-arm citizens of the US? How could this be accomplished?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just like Blow__Smoke I'm from the Netherlands, but guns are illegal in all of Europe. Compared to the US in personal freedoms, I can say that we are at least as free, I think we have more laws governing things, but a less strict enforcement of those laws. It will be an immense task to disarm the citizens of the US and this is not a task which is accomplished overnight. I think the mentality has to change to start with.
Let me give a few examples:
UY:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>The guns are here. Im here. The crooks have them and they use them...
But if the crooks have them, I'll have one too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In holland the criminals have guns too, but that doesn't mean that everybody goes and buys a gun, we have police to deal with criminals.
Then LiquiD_SiN says:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Bottom line is this isnt really about guns, its about rights. Give one up and the next is soon to follow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So you think it's your right to carry a device which is designed solely for the purpose of killing people ?
Apparantly you don't trust your government, which is a problem which must be solved.
Let me give an example, if here in holland, or any other european country a fundamental right were to be taken away, all hell would brake loose, and people would be very upset, and through a process called democracy we'd fight to get the decission reversed, what do you think the free press is for?
(you're still with me? I'm almost done )
There is one quote I want to end with, it is trinity saying:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>...when gun-control advocates talk about crime, they assume that no guns=no crime.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think it should be "no guns=less lethal crimes/accidents".
Again, I don't want to offend anyone, and I hope it doesn't sound to patronizing, I'd just like to have you (americans) see it through the eyes of someone else who sees things from a distance, and isn't to emotionally attached.
"I'll be back"
-+- I am the SlachterUnit3000 -+-
[This message has been edited by SlachterUnit3k (edited 06-17-2000).]