Any armchair birders hang here?

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gopostal

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Can't recall ever seeing a discussion about this but I thought I'd ask. Currently I'm working on a small animal pack and I've imported the models from Animal_Pack1. The bird sounds are horrible and I want to make them accurate. Anyone help here? I googled things but this quickly delves into serious discussions on Audubon sites and it's far more commitment than I want to spend researching. I just need someone to go "That'll do" on a dozen or so generic species representatives.
 

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somewhere; sometime?
so we spend a lot of time outdoors right.
and a few years ago this girl I was dating at the time asked if I wanted to be a member of the Audubon society.

I literally had never heard that word before and I was like "you mean there's a club for the German super highway?"
she had no idea what I was talking about. I had no idea what she was talking about.

that's my Audubon story.
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gopostal

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That's how a ton of conversations between the wife and I go. She's an academic and I'm a tard so her references and jokes I'll often laugh at knowingly then go google later so I get them. We were in Roseburg yesterday (where that bad college shooting was a couple weeks back) so the town is still a bit on edge. There were some kids running kinda rowdy in K-Mart and my wife looks at me and says "Ugh. Montessori kids, amiright?" I snorted "For sure." Googled it this morning. Had no idea. Still don't care, fuck em. They were just being shit kids.

Ok, I'm overthinking this. As long as the birds don't lion roar and the sounds are clean who gives a shit. Thanks Jack for the nudge.
 

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My main problem with that animal pack is the volume, but yeah I totally agree, they are not accurate at all.
The Seagull is the small Black-headed gull, and sounds different to the sound used.
It could pass as a Turn because they also have a black hat.
The boring looking sparrows are a very chirpy bird with complex songs, and brightly coloured birds tend to be the opposite, so even the naming of the colourful "Songbird" is wrong.

http://sounds.bl.uk/environment/british-wildlife-recordings
http://www.xeno-canto.org
http://www.british-birdsongs.uk
http://macaulaylibrary.org The Cornell Lab of Ornithology
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/songwav.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/birdsong.shtml
http://www.avisoft.com/sounds.htm
http://www.enature.com/birding/audio.asp
http://soundbible.com/tags-bird.html
 
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cryptophreak

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One time I shot a bird.

I had just gotten my first shotgun, I knew fuck all about guns, and me and my teenage friends were assholes. So we see this bird and someone says I should shoot it. I figure what the hell—I’ll pull the trigger, the bird will go down, and we’ll keep moving. Clean and easy. I’ve got two rounds of target load in the mag, so I rack one in and take the shot.

Now, little do I know at the time, target load doesn’t really kill things properly. Instead of lead, like you get with buck- or bird-shot, it’s filled with plastic BBs. Good enough for paper targets, not really suited to “hunting” of the sort I had just gotten myself into. This bird tumbles wildly out of the tree and spasms frantically in the dirt. Flapping and spinning and kicking up debris like nothing I’d ever seen. Raw pain and desperation. Shit.

So I’ve got one more round, the bird is fucking apeshit with fragments of plastic embedded in it and useless wings, and my friends are going out of their minds, screaming at me to put this thing out of its misery. But it’s moving so goddamn quick and in unpredictable directions that I’m having trouble keeping my sights on it—and I’ve only got one chance, so I’ve got to be sure. For maybe five seconds, eternally long seconds, there’s just shouting and flapping and chaos, and I’m trying to calmly line up the shot.

Breathe. Eyes on. Bang. Dead.

It was just a bird, but I feel like that experience changed me. Suddenly, guns weren’t toys. Birds weren’t just generic, annoying, noisy fucks. Life was more serious than video games. I had the power to make terrible things happen. It was up to me to think and use sound judgement. What I did mattered. Things mattered.
 

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I feel you. Had a similar event that was life changing for me too. I grew up in Appalachia and there is a different attitude to pets and animals there. You have a reverence for life but your family dog is just that: the dog. You certainly aren't it's 'pet parent' or any of that bullshit.

I'd hunted a springer spaniel since I was pretty young. She was a great dog but when I was 17 she had gotten almost blind and lame with old age. When she couldn't hold her water my dad said it was time, and told me to do it. I wasn't happy with the task but it's ok because I understand it's part of the responsibility.

I had a 9MM pistol and got that and carried her outside to the back yard. The plan went off the rails though because at the moment I shot I flinched. Instead of a clean, painless headshot I hit farther back and she howled in pain. It was still a lethal shot but it was far from clean. I saw my dad moving toward me but I went to take a second shot to fix this mess I'd made.

The gun was jammed. The brass hadn't ejected cleanly and it was twisted into the ejection port. I had nothing to clear it with, no backup knife, no plan. I'm 17, my dog is wailing from a mistake I made, I'm so sorry and ashamed, and I can't immediately fix it. My dad sees the problem and stops, then turns around and walks back toward the house. He's leaving this for me to fix.

I had to stand there and field strip the pistol to clear the jam. Later my dad explained that because I was stupid I didn't keep my pistol clean and oiled and that's the result. It was never an issue after that. Finally I got it reset and finished the task. I remember how bad my hands were shaking.

I'm right with you about learning those harsh life lessons. Those brief moment taught me an incredible amount. I think chief among them was that there are responsibilities to being a man that aren't pretty but you damn well better meet them without flinching. For a lot of things there is no real 'halfway' that's acceptable.
 
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