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QUALTHWAR

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I downloaded the demo version of Dreamweaver MX 2004 and i'm trying to build a new homepage. When you want your webpage to expand or shrink to fill the width on various PC screens with different resolutions and settings, don't you make all the cell width 100% when you want a single top banner to cover the whole page? Then maybe if you have 3 cells below this you can do something like 20% for one cell, 50% for another and 30% for the third cell? Something like that, as long as you set things to percentages?

I'm assuming that people are going to have their resolution set "at least" at 800x600, but if it's greater, how do i make things expand and shrink. I am making a few jpgs, such as a top banner, and i guess it needs to expand and shrink as well.

How should i go about setting things up so everything, including my jpgs, change to fit people's screens?
 
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100% will expand and shrink to the browser's dimensions... not necessarily screen resolution. There are other ways to control size and also workarounds for jpg, etc. so you don't pixelate the jpg's. Not sure how to do stuff like that in Dreamweaver cause I'm a pure HTML guy, but I'm sure someone around here is knowledgeable about that.

The general idea for the jpg's is use a background color for the cell same as the jpg, such that the background expands and not the jpg.
 

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using a jpg as a background in a table cell in DW is a matter of picking a file from the cell's porperties bar, and it will tile, not stretch

but, i think q is just talking about cell widths for the most part in which case, yes, you just slap 20% etc. in the wee little boxes of sexual shame
 

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Okay, i have a couple more questions: When i create a logo for my site, i save it as a jpg. You know how the image quality decreases when you use the jpg on your homepage? I remember you can really see it if you have red in the image. Anyway, even though i save the jpg at 100% quality, you can still see the quality reduced. What is the best extention to save the image as? gif, bmp, jpg, what? Or do i just need to try something else when i save it as a jpg?

My other question: I use a linksys rounter and i think this is why i can't upload my new homepage to the server. I can temporarily bypass the router, but when i tried it without shutting everything down and rebooting, it didn't work. Is there a way to get these files to upload?

I tried doing several things like make sure my win xp firewall was shut off, disabling a bunch of stuff on my rounter, but nada. Just so you know, i am able to connect to the server, but when i try to upload a file, it fails and logs me out.
 

BangOut

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photography... save as jpg... 80% is good
typography and transparency.... gif

if you can log in, your rotuing is fine... i don't know why ftp would transmit data over a different port than authentication

if you can't upload, there are some issues with permissions with your account and that folder or a settin gin your ftp client you may need to change... please forgive my lack of specificity
 

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Thanks, i figured out why i could connect, but not upload anything; I had exceeded my limit. I must have uploaded this large file a long time ago and forgotten about it. Once i got rid of that, i was able to upload.
 

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QUALTHWAR said:
Okay, i have a couple more questions: When i create a logo for my site, i save it as a jpg. You know how the image quality decreases when you use the jpg on your homepage? I remember you can really see it if you have red in the image. Anyway, even though i save the jpg at 100% quality, you can still see the quality reduced. What is the best extention to save the image as? gif, bmp, jpg, what? Or do i just need to try something else when i save it as a jpg?

.bmp files are the highest quality images and uncompressed, which unfortunately, gives them large file sizes. So you could do a .bmp for it if you really want, but check the size. Do you really want it taking up that much disk space on your server, using that much bandwidth for the one image or have the visitors wait for the thing to download (mainly users on 56k of course).

The differences between .jpg and .gif as I understand it, is that .gif's are 256 colours and .jpg's are whatever colour depth that they are saved as. And of course, the .jpg's are compressed - both have a comparable file size. Of course the .gif file can also be animated and have transparencies (sp?) But I would say that it heavily depends on what exactly the image is. For instance, if I was putting a photo on a site, I would go .jpg - high or low compression - gifs dont look good for these because they kill the colours off too much, even at 256, they just dont look the same, and what if you go lower to compress it some. However if it is a screenshot of say, a plain windows graphic or of for instance the post reply form, I would go gif. this is because it is a simple uncomplicated image that the colour loss does not matter a great deal on and the gif format actually (I believe) represents it better. This is because if you save it as a .jpg you get these ugly swirls that are added in on compression. I also notice this when I see bad looking screenshots and wonder why they did not use gif. This is what I believe you mean by the image quality decreases on jpg images, you can really see it if there is red.... Hang on a sec and I will post an example below for you, hopefully.

QUALTHWAR said:
My other question: I use a linksys rounter and i think this is why i can't upload my new homepage to the server. I can temporarily bypass the router, but when i tried it without shutting everything down and rebooting, it didn't work. Is there a way to get these files to upload?

I tried doing several things like make sure my win xp firewall was shut off, disabling a bunch of stuff on my rounter, but nada. Just so you know, i am able to connect to the server, but when i try to upload a file, it fails and logs me out.

As long as you have the ftp ports (20 & 21 - Bangout one is for data the other connection from memory, not sure of the word) open so that the info is going between the points I wouldnt imagine that the router could be the problem. I have found however that some programs I have used connecting to various web servers dont seem to work for some. For instance if you are just using the iexplorer, or explorer whatever it is ftp thing to try and send / recieve files, I can say that I have tried to use that and gotten horribly annoyed. So I got programs like ftp commander, cuteftp and aceftp. In turn I have found that I think it was commander had a heart attack on windows servers, but worked well with unix, whereas the others seemed to do well with either. Explorer died a hidious death on either. Of course it depends and all. So maybe try a different program. Two of the ones that I have mentioned - ftp commander and aceftp have free licenses (I would assume they still do?).

^ forget all that ftp stuff, youre last reply made it redundant. However I types it all, so dam it I am posting it.

Hope I am making sense
 

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StoneViper said:
that's pretty good.

your file sizes are switched in the first example

Ah, well noticed, I missed that completely.

That's what happens when you throw this stuff together at work in a dreadful hurry I guess. Will try to fix it up maybe tonight if I get the chance.

Cheers