how to aim, by Rostam

Rostam · Jan 13, 2002

I was wondering why so many people are using the p90. So i thought lets ask. I found out most people dont use it cuz of the rof, or big mag. But cuz of the sights.... Now IMO, thats just stupid. One of the few games that uses iron sights, and u people use the p90

so this is how i learned aiming with all weapons ever since i was a newbie:
Goto a map like sicily, take a weapon like the m16 or ak on semi. now shoot a hole in the wall (MAKE SURE SHOW DECALS IN VID OPTIONS IS ON!), after this run back a few passes, and try to shoot the hole. Pay good attention if u fired too low or too high.... After doing this a few times, play a 1vs1 match in Extreme Prejudice against a masterfull bot or something, and take the ak or m16 again....

ive teached this to atleast 5 newbies online, and every last on of em has become a great marksman with all weapons

now go online and spread the word!

G-Fresh · Jan 13, 2002

Umm..... use the shooting range? Isn't that what it's there for?

Rostam · Jan 13, 2002

i tried that, but i couldnt even hit a target from 10 meters with the m9 cuz of bulletdrop or something. Thats why i advice training things like aiming and nade trowing online, so u get used to things online play brings with it, like getting rushed while ur attempting to trow a nade and no bulletdrop

agent · Jan 13, 2002

IRL p90's sights were designed to be user friendly. so you're saying IRL people should use a mauser just because its sights are more difficult to master? besides, most sights in INF are unrealistic (too far away from eyes, useless without RA - m3, just plain wrong methinks - MP5, etc.).

These days, if i want to AIM i play on RA servers with a FA MAS in burst mode or m3. On non-RA servers i use m3/akmsu/p90 and RUSH.

NTKB · Jan 13, 2002

Does anyone else have this problem with the shooting range:

I shoot the target a few times and either some of the shots dont appear (dont make fun of my aim I was hitting the damn target

) or they disappear very fast.

Rostam · Jan 13, 2002

I shoot the target a few times and either some of the shots dont appear (dont make fun of my aim I was hitting the damn target ) or they disappear very fast.

ME!
shootingrange has many weird things, u should ask some1 else what and why

agent · Jan 13, 2002

im guessing the bulletholes dissappear in shootinrange because of a limit on extra texture decals (am i using the right terminology?

). there is "keep-decals" mutator, can't remember the name.

and the reason the people you talk to can't aim is because you're talking to people on non-RA servers.

RAZZ · Jan 13, 2002

I have that installed and it works pretty well.
but the sniper range targets dont respond much to non sniper weapons.
(even the psg sometimes hits and dosent leave a mark)
while the indoor range marks every hit.

I dont have a clue why it does that.

my favorite aim game is on the grenade range where I play "keep em down"

stand by the first m2hb mount with your favorite gun and try to keep down as many red targets as possible. (if more than one pops back up at a time, you lose

)

with most guns I can keep 3 targets down solidly.
switching to handpistols I can almost keep 4 down.

itskeiagain · Jan 13, 2002

I don't know why this guy's complaining about people using P90 because it's easy to use.
They can use whatever they want. It's not like they are spamming with nades or anything.

CrappyChan · Jan 13, 2002

i've never had any problems with any guns, just point, and shoot. I just tryed that Rostam said. Is ok, but nothing can prepare you for online play, when you only have 1 second to fire. Thats why sometimes i prefer just a plain ol' M9.

DredDamo · Jan 14, 2002

You might not know this, but in software mode on some video cards there are no decals at all

Er, like mine.

Not that the rest of what you say doesn't make sense. A 1v1 Masterful Bot with an M16 or a Sig would prolly work quite well in teaching people how to shoot better...although I don't see a problem with using the P90. It's quite nice for wall penetration in some maps...

D.

Tiran Kenja · Jan 14, 2002

Originally posted by RAZZ
my favorite aim game is on the grenade range where I play "keep em down"

stand by the first m2hb mount with your favorite gun and try to keep down as many red targets as possible. (if more than one pops back up at a time, you lose )

with most guns I can keep 3 targets down solidly.
switching to handpistols I can almost keep 4 down.

Heh. I play that too from time to time. When i desperatly try to get my aim speed up...

I haven't personally tried with pistols. But am I the only one that thinks that's wrong if it would be 'easier' to do with a pistol than with an assualt rifle?

the vrrc · Jan 14, 2002

With DecalStay the shooting range worked fine. I was able to see that I got about 15/30 shots with the FA MAS at 200 meters in the centreal area of the target.

Rostam · Jan 14, 2002

Originally posted by Tiran Kenja

But am I the only one that thinks that's wrong if it would be 'easier' to do with a pistol than with an assualt rifle?

well a pistol is smaller / lighter and generally, everything to aim fast

so no, hitting targets on the shootingrange shouldnt be easier with an AR or SMG

Tiran Kenja · Jan 14, 2002

Originally posted by Rostam

well a pistol is smaller / lighter and generally, everything to aim fast

so no, hitting targets on the shootingrange shouldnt be easier with an AR or SMG

Fair enough. But a pistol would be nowhere near as accurate... Right?

RAZZ · Jan 14, 2002

well, depends.
irl Im pretty handy with a handpistol out to about 30 feet.
(err, Im not sure what the actual range is from you to those targets)

I figure I could land the bullet in the red *somewhere*
but heads or legs is really a toss up.

a rifle is king for accuracy. almost any model could pop em squarely in their heads at a several hundred feet. something a regular handgun just cant do.
but for speed of engagement under 50 feet, handpistols are faster. just not as powerful.

smg is the best middleground.
(and thats represented in inf so far)

yurch · Jan 14, 2002

Smaller/lighter (Which is NOT modeled in inf, anyway) means that it is harder to keep steady.
Take a look at the SAW/PSG/Robar - all relatively heavy rifles.
Simplified, of course, because you have to take ammunition/sights into account as well.

OpFor · Jan 14, 2002

"and no bulletdrop"

Umm, isn't their bulletdrop on the maps outside of the firing range? I thought their was?

BulletSponge · Jan 14, 2002

Here's something you can try if you're bored:

Fire up the shooting range, and load up on grenades from the stock room. Go to the 400m target range and bring a target up to you. Use the "throw wepon" or "throw ammo" key to toss a grenade on top of the target (it'll take a few tries, so be patient). Once there's a nade on the target, send it out to whatever range you want, and try to shoot the sucker off.

You may have to go into the INI and turn on exploding ammo, but it's worth it.

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