Smoke Spamming.....

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Bushwack

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I was on AFA EAS server last night,the map was EP, and we were the attacking team, i was moving from our spawn area to the right edge of the bridge leading up to where the defenders spawn at their base. Here there are two buildings, one roofless one, one shack, further up the road, i popped the ONLY TWO smokers i had in my loadout {i only ever carry two, unless im using the hk69 smoker loadout i made}, i popped one smoker on the left side at the top of the bridge between the road and the roofless shack, the other i popped between the telephone pole and the mountain to the right of the shack, to cover my position, and get the kill on the sniper whom was camped out at the top of the defender spawn near the wall above the containers in the road.
I got accused of spamming smoke to drop framerates :rolleyes:

People, if 2 smokes nades constitutes spamming, ill altogether quit freakin playing INF, if ONLY 2 causes your framerate to drop to where you cant shoot, please trade in your Commodore 64 and get a pc.

That is all, id like to hear from some server admins or anyone else regarding any similar accusations.

40 mm i spam, ill admit, but not the freakin smokers, especially when we had two 'tards' waging thier own personal knife war map after map dropping smoker after smoker, and i get cussed out for popping 2 of them and possibly saving a team member from getting sniped. :mad:
 
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das_ben

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Click me.

I guess this might become an issue because there'll be more people who cry foul play now, even if the smoke grenades are used adequately.:/
 

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thats a very different scenario, i dropped 2, read TWO smokers, not half the map, i understand where demo was comin from, in the thread, BUT, this accusation was not only unfounded, but the person making this claim wanted to freakin argue with me about it over team chat.

when i explained i did that for a reason to cover my ingress and position i got this as a reply....."BS i saw you drop the one then move back"

BS is when you save a teammate from getting sniped and get reemed by a teammate for making a smart move.

I play on dialup FFS, if anyone is gonna suffer from any loss from smoke, its gonna be me first, then the low enders second.
 
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DamienW

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It's too late. Now that a smoke spamming issue hasbeen discussed once, every whiner out there will yell if you use more than one smoke, and some may even yell for one single grenade if someone else had previously used his own.

:hmm: Only thing to do is ignore anyone whining if you know smoke spamming isn't your intent. Now if server admins start kicking people for it, that's another problem :(
 

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Bushwack who said that to you? I was there today. ACtually I dont remember reading that. I did yell at KW cause he was smoking up the friggin road and I couldnt see. But the smoke nades you laid down worked beautifully. It totally ruined me.

the last time I played EP no one smoked and I killed 12 ppl without dying! That time against you and your team I only killed 1-2 ppl per life! Why? Smoke. I couldnt see you guys approaching well in my scope. So I dont think what you did was wrong and it was actually "right!" ;)
 
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AFA was horrid tonight. AFA was fine yestarday, and I hope it will improve tomarrow, but
this night has set a bad precident for the community. There was no teamwork. There
was no real attempts to attack the objective. It was just simple TDM tonight.
 

Grunt11Bravo

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Bushwack:

Dropping two smokers is fine in my opinion. I drop smoke nades to cover my approach or to distract the enemy. I use smoke rounds from M203 or HK69 to fire them downrange to obscure the vision of the opposing forces. It's all realistic tactics & play.

If you get a few that complain about it, ignore them.

Some people just like to find things to complain about. All they do is bitch & whine & piss & moan about one thing or another.

Deliberate attempts of cheating (i.e. creating an unfair advantage; smoking half the map for no reason; etc. ) the game will incur the wrath of AFA server admins.

Demo: We've no control over what players will do on a given night. I've played some nights where it seemed all people wanted to do was kill each other and to hell with the objectives. Other nights, people are awesome, working as a team etc.
 
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NTKB

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I hate to admit this but grunt is right. Why do I hate to admit it? Cause usually I lose my cool and complain about a gameplay feature which is fine but im pissed about cause it caused me to die. Some ppl (including me unfortunately) get frustrated when they lose alot and blame something instead of themselves. They cannot envision themselves losing. I try to be a good sport most of the time but it happens. The only suggestion i can make here is realize everyone is different. Some ppl even have mental problems. You cannot judge and try someone unless you ask them NICELY to please stop complaining and they keep going.

Me personally, when someone tells me to please stop complaining it wakes me up to my assholiness and I stop being a dick. But if someone says STFU or something like that then it pisses me off further. So please be curtious to ppl because you never know what kind of stress or mental problem they have.

Just my 5 cents.. ;)
 

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Bush, that was me that said that because I thought it was KW. We had just gotten off Island where he had dropped more than a neccessary amount of smoke just for his ninja "cause." And IMO at the time, you did drop smoke where it wasn't really needed. It was next to the first house on the hill coming from the attacker spawn. It was next to the fence, so it wasn't blocking the horizon. Sorry it made you upset, but I was getting tired of it due to the previous map and that carried over to the next round. I don't want you to quit playing INF because of that. As for the ninja crusade, I'm getting tired of it as well. Shrug, whatever floats their boat I guess.
 

Bushwack

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the smoke was dropped as a false sniper observance point at the top of the hill, the second smoker was dropped to hide my position, both of the areas where i dropped the smoke are excellent spots to get the sniper at the top of thier spawn from, in fact, the ONLY 2 points where you can see him from cover. in point of fact, NT was the sniper and i did get him that round after dropping those smokers, ask him.
Apology accepted Ere.
 

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Bushwack said:
the smoke was dropped as a false sniper observance point at the top of the hill, the second smoker was dropped to hide my position, both of the areas where i dropped the smoke are excellent spots to get the sniper at the top of thier spawn from, in fact, the ONLY 2 points where you can see him from cover. in point of fact, NT was the sniper and i did get him that round after dropping those smokers, ask him.
Apology accepted Ere.


Ill openly admit. Bushwacks tactic worked 100%. he nuetralized me. Like I said before, on EP when the other team doesnt use smoke I pop 10-15 heads a game usually without dying. But Bush popped those smokes and I was useless. I couldnt see nothing. It worked very well.

Duke you are right, but some people have very large egos like me. We dont like to lose. And to top it all off I am very competative and usually dont lose so when i do it causes a chemical reaction in my brain (anger) which leads me to say and do stupid stuff. Just please UNDERSTAND that many different ppls with different attitudes play this game. We cant lose anyone cause our comuunity is small. So lets all try and understand and respect eacgother. At least if your gonna tell someone to STFU do it in a civil and friendly manner.

For instance:

NTKB: " ****! How the hell did you get me?"

Nice person A: "NTKB, I was behind you. :) "

See that would make me think "Ok, cool."

Second example:

NTKB: "So goddamn tired of the weak ass AKMSU."

******* A: "STFU YOU WHINER

NTKBs response to this: " Suck my dick and make me.."

And so it escalates. I have a VERY short temper. Not only does it run in my family but I have an inbalance in my testosterone levels naturally since I was young. Testosterone is androgenic, this causes a response in the hippocampus of the brain to incite anger easily. Sometimes its VERY hard to control. You couldnt understand unless you have this problem. So please be understanding of people and be patient. Thanks.
 

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WTF is this ninja crusade crap? Sounds about as annoying as a TKer. It amazes me that some people play just to ruin it for others.

And AFA isn't what it used to be. I loved the days of RA and DTAS. There was lots of teamwork. But that was when there was a split and AFA was the realism corner. Now anybody joins, and that can lead to MUF server matches. The biggest problem on AFA for me is the horrible pings I get. I see people I want to play with, but after a few rounds of reliving my nightmares where I pull the trigger and nothing comes out, I have to leave. Is the AFA server in a new location?
 

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AFA has a terrible connection atm. LF/Grunt i'd go complain at your provider if i were you, i dont know what connection they claim to be selling to you, but with more then 8 persons on there pings start creeping towards unplayable at 14+ players. And it's claiming to be a 20 player server even!

For me, i'm grounded to euro/MUF server for now, not to my pleasure :(
 

NTKB

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we has ping issues with recon gamer with GD2. Its one of the reasons GD2 was killed by us and GD3 was started with another company. Recon gamer simply sucks ass even though they are cheap.
 

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Grunt11Bravo said:
Bushwack:

Dropping two smokers is fine in my opinion. I drop smoke nades to cover my approach or to distract the enemy. I use smoke rounds from M203 or HK69 to fire them downrange to obscure the vision of the opposing forces. It's all realistic tactics & play.

If you get a few that complain about it, ignore them.

Some people just like to find things to complain about. All they do is bitch & whine & piss & moan about one thing or another.

Deliberate attempts of cheating (i.e. creating an unfair advantage; smoking half the map for no reason; etc. ) the game will incur the wrath of AFA server admins.

Demo: We've no control over what players will do on a given night. I've played some nights where it seemed all people wanted to do was kill each other and to hell with the objectives. Other nights, people are awesome, working as a team etc.

As Grunt said............the smoke is there for a reason...........

also I seen someone toss the cd to there team member......... down a few stories........this is not cheating It takes communication and teamwork to execute such a manuver.........Someone bitched for almost an hour about it
 

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Oh... I don't even want to hear ****in bitching about knifing I was knifing over the holidays just for fun. So if you have a problem Bush about how I feel like playing, well I don't give a **** ;). Sit and rotate if you have a problem with it
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Oh btw I agree what you said bout smoke though :p
 

Bushwack

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Why was that directed at me? o_0 i wasnt bitching about anything YOU did, if im displeased with something YOU did, i will refer to YOU in the FIRST PERSON. Your brand of holiday 'fun' comes at the cost of the fun of many other people, so i'd suggest you direct your juvenile remarks towards where they belong, which isnt in my general direction...

oh, before i forget, ask KW how effective his ninja tactics were at least 4 out of 5 times, and i remember turning towards your knife and cramming somewhere between 10-30 rounds of .40 in your face at least 3 times.

My point, if you actually bothered to read the phucking thread, was that i got yelled at for YOUR retardation online.

Get the 1st/3rd person thing now? :rolleyes:
 
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