A poll, please.
I have seen many people in various threads decrying spawn sniping on Face and similar maps.
I always considered the definition of lameness to be either: a) straight cheating; or b) preventing other people's (reasonable) participation in the game. That includes major portal camping an enemy base and totally preventing access to their own resources to play.
But we're living in a time when it's frag-or-be-fragged. Take the Crash UT 28-person server. Anyone standing in one place for 2 secs...spawning or not, gets headshot. Either team. Any game. You could argue it's a "flaw" in the map design, but that's just the way Face is. Love it or leave it, IMHO.
As a result, I have no qualms about sniping spawn areas on that map. I don't however, snipe people as they spawn...I usually give them a few seconds to make a run for it or get a weapon and then nail them. I don't ever want to be accused of not giving others any chance. I also don't snipe from the spawn area, which is normally protected, or from the enemy base.
There is a skill to being a sniper. Everyone talks about the great fun they have taking-out sitting snipers, and there's the opposite story as well: the skill you need to have to be a good, consistent sniper that is able to fend off those attacks. On a big server, you will always be found-out.
On the Crash server, there are a few guys...one guy that annoys the hell out of me (but not really) named Hammer_Time....who runs around with his piston nailing everyone and camping every portal....and I think it's totally lame, but totally legitimate. He's got a strategy that he sticks to, you can counter it, and it's risky for him...but he's skilled at it.
Likewise, I consider myself a great sniper...not just in aim, but in knowing when to move. When to get the quick headshot, when I can make a return. Knowing how to counter the trans- and hammer-guys. Taking out 5 guys coming up the hill, transing the whole way, as they make an attack on our base. There's never a question on whether I've helped the team in doing so.
Sniping annoys the hell out of everyone. I myself hate being sniped. But it's part of the game, it takes skill to do it well and make points consistently, and there are some situations in which anything goes.
Anyone that's played with me knows I'm always reasonable, polite and fair, but to play Devil's Advocate, sometimes war is won by brawn, sometimes by strategy, and sometimes by cunning.
Spawn-sniping on Face - where do you draw the line?
What's lame anymore and what isn't? I think things are becoming less-and-less lame the longer we play, since people know the lame moves and know how to counter them.
....And as for all you hammer-whores, come get me!!!!
-Scott
[muTTs] Das
Winner of the Award: The Highest Word Count for Every Post
I have seen many people in various threads decrying spawn sniping on Face and similar maps.
I always considered the definition of lameness to be either: a) straight cheating; or b) preventing other people's (reasonable) participation in the game. That includes major portal camping an enemy base and totally preventing access to their own resources to play.
But we're living in a time when it's frag-or-be-fragged. Take the Crash UT 28-person server. Anyone standing in one place for 2 secs...spawning or not, gets headshot. Either team. Any game. You could argue it's a "flaw" in the map design, but that's just the way Face is. Love it or leave it, IMHO.
As a result, I have no qualms about sniping spawn areas on that map. I don't however, snipe people as they spawn...I usually give them a few seconds to make a run for it or get a weapon and then nail them. I don't ever want to be accused of not giving others any chance. I also don't snipe from the spawn area, which is normally protected, or from the enemy base.
There is a skill to being a sniper. Everyone talks about the great fun they have taking-out sitting snipers, and there's the opposite story as well: the skill you need to have to be a good, consistent sniper that is able to fend off those attacks. On a big server, you will always be found-out.
On the Crash server, there are a few guys...one guy that annoys the hell out of me (but not really) named Hammer_Time....who runs around with his piston nailing everyone and camping every portal....and I think it's totally lame, but totally legitimate. He's got a strategy that he sticks to, you can counter it, and it's risky for him...but he's skilled at it.
Likewise, I consider myself a great sniper...not just in aim, but in knowing when to move. When to get the quick headshot, when I can make a return. Knowing how to counter the trans- and hammer-guys. Taking out 5 guys coming up the hill, transing the whole way, as they make an attack on our base. There's never a question on whether I've helped the team in doing so.
Sniping annoys the hell out of everyone. I myself hate being sniped. But it's part of the game, it takes skill to do it well and make points consistently, and there are some situations in which anything goes.
Anyone that's played with me knows I'm always reasonable, polite and fair, but to play Devil's Advocate, sometimes war is won by brawn, sometimes by strategy, and sometimes by cunning.
Spawn-sniping on Face - where do you draw the line?
What's lame anymore and what isn't? I think things are becoming less-and-less lame the longer we play, since people know the lame moves and know how to counter them.
....And as for all you hammer-whores, come get me!!!!
-Scott
[muTTs] Das
Winner of the Award: The Highest Word Count for Every Post