wow, we actually have one rep for each side.
And the tzimisce DO NOT have any resemblence to the magus. Too different especially compared to clan tzimisce.
simple powerless tricksters? As the simple powerless tricksters we are, we still have the duty to keep you from being to attached to your impermanent things. need i remind you of Rome?
hardcoregamer? you and your camarilla can go stuff it. You brought carthage to ruin yet you hide behind your lies, unable to accept the blunt truth. Your own eden destroyed by your own arrogance and stupidity.
If memory serves correst, the current Sabbat's members - Lasombra and Tzimisce, were quite happy with its destruction. You need an anarchist to focus your rage? Look no further, you got one Sabbat right here. 'sides, at last count the sabbat were whomping your camarilla's ass in 2/3 of the contested teratories.
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Shit Happens... and with great regularity too. We just have to deal with it one turd at a time.