The worst thing about this thread is the hyphen in the title.
The hyphen is an artifact from the console version of this thread.
PFFFFFTTTTTTTBBEBBWBEHEWEFHW. How much PC gaming do you even do anymore?Look at you all. Complaining and being grumpy already. Only page one and a 43 second video and you all find some stuff to whine about.
Beyond Unreal is weird.
It's not that we want things that the console versions don't have, we just want a proper port at the least. I'll give them credit for trying and for that I bought their game hoping for a good successor to Battlefield 2. But it ends there really. They've patched how much since it's release and yet the server browser (which was a joke on launch) is still buggy and crap compared to the ones you find on PC exclusives. The controls are a sluggish mess. The engine performance is abysmal and it has always been clear Frostbite was designed for 360. The list goes on...What did the consoles get that PC didn't? And let me go over this again. The PC version is awesome.
Look at you all. Complaining and being grumpy already. Only page one and a 43 second video and you all find some stuff to whine about.
Beyond Unreal is weird.
It's not that we want things that the console versions don't have, we just want a proper port at the least. I'll give them credit for trying and for that I bought their game hoping for a good successor to Battlefield 2. But it ends there really. They've patched how much since it's release and yet the server browser (which was a joke on launch) is still buggy and crap compared to the ones you find on PC exclusives. The controls are a sluggish mess. The engine performance is abysmal and it has always been clear Frostbite was designed for 360. The list goes on...
I have no problems with the server browser and I find the controls to be exactly what I want. They are lag free, but the movement feels more restrained than something like COD, which is deliberate and wonderful. I don't know what you mean by the engine performance being miserable, but it runs great for me (on my 5850--and it ran great on my 8800gts before I upgraded) and I don't see what's so gimped about it. It's beautiful, it has some large environments and the destructibility is second to none right now. Maybe it's just not for you, but I, for one, find it to be a truly excellent experience and there isn't another modern PC FPS right now that feels better right now.
~Jason
The engine performance is abysmal and it has always been clear Frostbite was designed for 360. The list goes on...
Yeah I guess the browser value is actually the ping when connecting straight to the server, and doesn't take into account all the sh*t that happens in-game like destructibility and other network traffic.My favorite thing about BC2 is when the browser says I ping like 15 and then in-game my ping is 200 or something.
Onslaught.
Onslaught.
BF1942 and 64 person servers wasn't that exciting, so I'm not sure what the excitement level is about.Oh, yeah, forgot about that. You win a point. I'm still excited as crap about BF3 and 64 person servers.
~Jason
BF1942 and 64 person servers wasn't that exciting, so I'm not sure what the excitement level is about.
Have they announced PC exclusive maps yet? Because if not I'm sure 64 players on maps made for 16 is going to be awesome...
I don't get the impression the delayed-everything is deliberate. The slower the server, the slower everything becomes. Even simple stuff that is normally localized like weapon switching. I'm not saying it runs bad but compared to other games it sure does. Look at Dead Space, you can play that on DX10 with an old core 2 duo and a limpdick of a graphics card like a GT240 and pull 60+ fps. Modern cards and hardware will get you over 200 no problem. (I don't think it's a coincidence considering engine's foundation was on PC with The Godfather. Dead Space looks pretty because of good design/art, not technical achievement) You could never do that in BC2. That game only looks good in much more grand scheme, with many players and a lot of action happening. Play on medium/low settings by your lonesome and the game quickly looks really washed out and rather pathetic for what we have these days.I have no problems with the server browser and I find the controls to be exactly what I want. They are lag free, but the movement feels more restrained than something like COD, which is deliberate and wonderful. I don't know what you mean by the engine performance being miserable, but it runs great for me (on my 5850--and it ran great on my 8800gts before I upgraded) and I don't see what's so gimped about it. It's beautiful, it has some large environments and the destructibility is second to none right now. Maybe it's just not for you, but I, for one, find it to be a truly excellent experience and there isn't another modern PC FPS right now that feels better right now.
~Jason
The browser and scoreboard do some funky junk. The browser snapshots a ping the moment it's info is retrieved rather than getting a quick average like other games. So, sometimes you get a ping that makes it to the server faster than average the moment the info was retrieved or of course, sometimes much slower. The scoreboard is latency, which is a lot different than ping. I saw it explained once exactly how how it's calculated but I don't remember much other than it can be said that dividing your latency will give you a rough estimate of your ping.My favorite thing about BC2 is when the browser says I ping like 15 and then in-game my ping is 200 or something. It is rather unwieldy in terms of resources and I knocked it back to DirectX 9 so I could play without too much horrible bull**** happening on the new maps. I never had the problem except on the new map pack, but whatever. I'm not missing out on anything important.
I'm not saying it runs bad but compared to other games it sure does. Look at Dead Space, you can play that on DX10 with an old core 2 duo and a limpdick of a graphics card like a GT240 and pull 60+ fps. Modern cards and hardware will get you over 200 no problem. (I don't think it's a coincidence considering engine's foundation was on PC with The Godfather. Dead Space looks pretty because of good design/art, not technical achievement) You could never do that in BC2. That game only looks good in much more grand scheme, with many players and a lot of action happening. Play on medium/low settings by your lonesome and the game quickly looks really washed out and rather pathetic for what we have these days.
HEATHEN!To be honest, I never thought BF1942 was all that great. Yeah, it was first, but the gameplay was extremely slack and didn't really do it for me. As for the maps, if ALL they had was a Rush map from BC2 without the roped off areas of progression, it would still be absolutely awesome. We'll see, though.
~Jason