OT: Surprising game poll result

I don't know anyone that can baet the bots on the highest difficulty level in UT, but there might be someone.

Graphics are getting to a point to where i dont want them to get any better!

AI is a good choice for the win! I would have voted for multiplayer coding though! ANd maps, alot of games maps piss me off!

Hmm, lots of human players are pretty ****ty in team games too.

Beating godlike bots is not the highest setting. Try setting all your bots skill-adjust, accuracy, strafing, alertness all to 100%, then try to beat them on godlike. Loque and Xan aren't even that tough.

AI, yeah it still needs work. Bots should have to respond to a simular set of stimuli as humans: Sounds should only give them an "approximation" of where you are. Bright lights (coronas or muzzle flash) or darkness lower their accuracy. They should have to "see" the 3-D world the same way we do, as a 2-D prejection. This way, distance aiming would have to be approximated and adjusted, the way warships used to fight before radar. Bots should panic when surrounded and start spamming at random, like most humans (well, me at least). They should make random "bad judgement calls" every now and then. They should have attention spans, so that sometimes they just can't "focus". And they should have bad days where they just can't seem to hit anything.

On the other hand, what kind of challenge would that be? UT's bots are already "smart" enough. The only AI enhancements needed are to make them more realistic, hence "dumber". Unreal I's bots were smarter and deadlier than UT's, but they did not seem very realistic.

Give it a break guys Polge's on the job and he wont let us down .

I dont know how good Fox is so I wont comment

The poll results appear heartening, but usually the gamers and reviewers are first to crib if the graphics of games do not advance the wow factor exponentially.

Originally posted by Tetris L
the things you mention would make the bot more human, but most people who voted for improved AI probably had smarter bots in mind.

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Imho there's PLENTY of room to make the bots smarter/harder while giving them human weaknesses. And both factors would greatly improve the enjoyability of playing bots. I hate the "awww that is just RIDICULOUS!" feeling I have when playing godlike bots. Even tho they're flying thru the air after being lifted by a pack of rockets they can still headshot you a mile away while u have invisibility on and standing beneath a lantern with a lens flare.

Speaking of AI...



Has anyone had the chance to play Halo (XBox) yet ?

The AI in Halo is fantastic, by far the best iv ever seen.

You're all right of course, they could be made smarter and more realistic. For one thing, they could navigate and take advantage of any map without any pathing, imagine the time saved in level design!

I think it would really be cool if the bots had to figure out a new map just like you do, and learn by watching you or other bots. The bots would get more challenging as the level progressed, without actually increasing in skill level. You could set the bots to retain their memories, or wipe em out for each new level.

I think the skaarj had some good teamwork tactics (when they weren't killing each other!)

Bots should have human weaknesses like not being able to see you when you are invisable and thing like that.

It would be better if they didn't have set paths to walk on because some home made maps don't support bots very well, and it would look more realistic.

If you want to find out what the bots are thinking, this little mutator should do the job:

http://www.planetunreal.com/fordy/mindread.htm

I've never tried this mutator myself, I just ran across it over att Fordy's site some days ago. Perhaps it will tell you something about how the bots work. It's worth a try, at least.

Originally posted by Tetris L
However, in DM the UT bots do a very good job. It's hard to tell the difference between a human player and a bot by behaviour in DM. :tup:

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Hah, I think NOT. The UT bots are very ****ty in DM, even Q3A bots do a better job at DM, and they suck as well.

I had a query regarding bot views. When i'm spectating and I type behindview 0 I get an FP view which I prefer to the external camera view of the bot, but when I switch to the next bot, it again goes to the thirdperson mode. Is there a way I can always get a firstperson view while spectating?

Muchos Gracias, Tetris