I'm tired of spending time making sh*t already

hyrulian · Mar 26, 2006

Ok, sorry I have to vent here. I'm tired of spending time making stuff if it doesn't end up getting used. It's happened twice already. Let's see...

#1: I made UT2k4 Message Colorizer, and then Epic had to f*ck me over by disabling the color escapes, making this useless for UT2k4 and later UE2 games.

#2: I made Roulette Pickups for the BuF BP2, and I didn't notice until today that it didn't make the final cut for the FragBU Bonus Pack. I say I didn't notice until today because nobody even said a single word about it being dropped. After making improvements (and getting Slayer's permission, because some of his code is in there), I'm releasing it myself eventually.

Now there's the case of ONS-Tricky-FragBU, which is currently in progress. People have been pushing me to make this ever since the UT2k4 ECE has come out, and recently (last weekend) I've finally seriously begun work on it. But is anyone gonna play it? Because if I'm gonna be the only one playing it, I don't think it's gonna be worth the effort of me continuing work on it and finishing it up.

So do you want it or not?

T2A` · Mar 26, 2006

People make stuff all the time that doesn't get used. Just look at all the mods that people worked on that never got finished because no one cared.

As far as the new Tricky goes, I'll probably play it a few times like the original, but after it's lost its appeal I'll get tired of it and leave the server if it comes up.

Kantham · Mar 26, 2006

Don't look at me

I hate Tricky, it's very pointless because people will only want to do tricks in it.
I don't know what's the deal for the FBU editon though.

CyMek · Mar 26, 2006

I'd play it. I don't usually vote Tricky becasue DP tries to vote it early on when the server is full, and I know it will empty the server out. I'd play though when it gets later and most people know the rules and the server won't empty.

T2A` · Mar 26, 2006

On the contrary, it should probably be voted early on, at least once it goes through its initial few times being played. There was hardly anyone on the server between 7-10pm yesterday, the perfect time for a few people to get in there and trick around on it. When it gets around 12-2am I and many others are expecting some good CTF games, and I think voting it late would definitely clear the server.

hal · Mar 26, 2006

The only times I really have had fun on Tricky:

- The first couple of times I "played" it. By "played" I mean just screwed around with jumps

- The first couple of times we really tried to get some air with grenades off the top of the tower

- The first couple of times we played with that mutator that made the vehicles really really jumpy.

Any other time I just play "sniper wars" with Kes or someone while everyone drives around in vehicles.

The problem is, once you've done a few tricks, there really isn't a lot to entertain. If you remake Tricky, it should be really wacky - semi-low-grav - or something. Maybe open up the arena more.

Hanover_Fist · Mar 26, 2006

If you learned something from trying to make/finish it, then it's worth something. If only you're figuring out your likes/dislikes in a hobby.

If it's frustrating and you don't enjoy it then quit, try something else.

I think it takes years for most people to figure out a hobby they'll stick with, there's nothing wrong with trying lots of different stuff.

I'm kinda like that, I'll pick something up and by the time I figure out how to do it I'm bored with it and want to do something else.

Taleweaver · Mar 27, 2006

I've been sceptical about an increased tricky in the first place. For this, I bring two reasons:
* more possible (and higher) jumps doesn't mean the matches will be more fun. It's fun to launch vehicles; jumping them further doesn't increase the factor mentionably.
* even though (the original) Tricky has better gameplay than eg. Torlan, nobody will play it. The map will be opened to jump around in, but that'll be it. In time, the gimmick will subside and the map won't do much more than fill up hard disk space. Now that I think of it...is Tricky still being "played" on fragBU lately?

Sorry if this sounds harsh, Hyru. If you only want to make the map so others can play it (which seems like the purpose), then I don't think you should finish working on the map. However, if you want to learn about unrealEd, then a project like this will be much more rewarding than something like making a ONS-Subtractedcube map.

Hyrulian Hero said:
#1: I made UT2k4 Message Colorizer, and then Epic had to f*ck me over by disabling the color escapes, making this useless for UT2k4 and later UE2 games.

Not entirely true. UTComp still uses the very same colorcodes, so the program still holds some value.

T2A` · Mar 27, 2006

Tricky was NEVER played seriously at FragBU. In fact, what happened is each team would grab their first two nodes, the center node (for the most part) would be left alone, and the game would go into overtime with the slowest possible draining time to maximize the match's length. The whole point of this remake is to make it Tricky-er with bigger jumps, more vehakals, and... uh... stuff.

Exfinite · Mar 27, 2006

There have actually been several rogue factions who HAVE played it seriously. We annihilated those factions as quickly as possible, though.

Shroom-FX · Mar 27, 2006

Any map with trickjumping is gonna be raped by me, and thats a guarentee!

Nereid · Mar 27, 2006

Hanover_Fist said:
I'm kinda like that, I'll pick something up and by the time I figure out how to do it I'm bored with it and want to do something else.

ONS-City?

Shroom-FX said:
Any map with trickjumping is gonna be raped by me, and thats a guarentee!

$\o/$

Hanover_Fist · Mar 27, 2006

Nereid said:
ONS-City?

yes, among other things.

I certainly bit off more than I could chew with that 'project'. However, I don't see it as a failure as I learned a lot about static meshes/textures and mapping.
And I've got a great deal more respect for 'good' maps and other such projects and the people that make them.

Try mapping/meshing sometime, you'll see what I mean.

Renegade Retard · Mar 27, 2006

/me is waiting on Han to finish his race car skin.

j/k of course. I know you're past that

N1ghtmare · Mar 27, 2006

If you are going to remake it, you might want to add some more detail, like adding fans to the grandstands or something.

But if you look closely behind the 'Tower of Doom', you will find the only person who came to watch the competition; Gorge's fan that he 'killed' in the UT20003 intro.

Hanover_Fist · Mar 27, 2006

Renegade Retard said:
/me is waiting on Han to finish his race car skin.

this stupid thing?

Seriously, even if I did finish it you can barely tell one player from another because of the player scale. The only time you can see anything on a player is when you open it up in some kind of editor. Or when you've won a map and you get to see the winner close up......and you know you aren't going to win any maps...

<3

hal · Mar 27, 2006

[Pain]Nightmare said:
But if you look closely behind the 'Tower of Doom', you will find the only person who came to watch the competition; Gorge's fan that he 'killed' in the UT20003 intro.

You mean....

HuggyBear · Mar 27, 2006

If you make it, they will play, Hy.

Well, I'll play it anyway, and I'll mute every crybaby that whines about it!

And I agree, trick that map out! Gimme some good manta trick stuff, too!
Go nuts, follow your heart, and it'll be a great map dude.

N1ghtmare · Mar 27, 2006

hal said:
You mean....

You found him! :clap:

Figures he'd be the only one in those stands.

T2A` · Mar 27, 2006

I'd rather NOT see anymore Gorge fans in the stands... The framerates on that map are pretty bad as-is, and I think filling the stands will destory them outright.

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