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Hey i'm intrested in the military and someone gave me this forum and said there used to be some military guys here including canadian ones...any of you guys still post here? i'm a canadian looking to get into the army, i've got no expierence whatsoever but my dad and my grandpa used to work for them as civilians in construction and bus driving..

Here is the link to my other thread.
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=157229

ps- i'm from Victoria BC if that's any help.
 
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Jagdtiger

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Your best bet is to talk to a CF recruiter and watch their videos. Reading through your link and answering some questions... It doesn't matter what element you join you will go through the same 10 Week basic training as everyone else before going off to your trade specific training. The infantry is always hiring, the Navy is always hiring people into electronics, and the Air Force is off and on. Trade wise in the CF some are locked off and you won't be able to join the fact there are no openings. I believe Military Police is locked out right now, and I know the Air Force just took their lot of pilots for 2005. So my advise to you is talk to your recruiter and check out the link below. Read about all the trades, there used to be a trade finder quiz I don't know if it's still there though.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/careers/index_e.asp
 

geogob

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Yeah go see a recuiter, he can brief you on all the specifics. If you want to get in as an officer, you'll need to have an university diploma in hand or on its way. I considered joining the Navy as (Maritime Surface and Sub-surface) officier... my training would have been right near your home, on CFB Esquimalt. Well more specifically i was going to go the military college for my studies, with summer vacation at esquimalt ;)

Personally, I think the best choice if you want to go in as officer but do not yet have an university diploma is to go to the Royal Military College. Probably one of the best university in the country... great food too ;)
 
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Esquimalt eh? nah Navy i don't really want...it's all clean, clean, clean i was told and i hate cleaning :lol: btw i'm 20 yrs old and not in university...not even going to college right now and the army really helps you pay for that i'm told but i have no clue what i wanna do for the rest of my life so i'm gonna try different things. I got no skills in military stuff so i'll have to do the "no skills' thing first. I first wanna get all the info i can from the recruitment place downtown then i guess they will say where i'd go to sign up but by looking at what i was going for it looks like i'll have to be in shape...the guy who told me about the reserves said it's 1 day a wek 3 hrs a day and 15 bucks an hour.
 
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Arethusa

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If your recruiters are anything like our recruiters, take everything they say with a bucket of salt. They're salesmen. You'd be better off getting information from guys who've done it. In the end, I decided not to join the marines (talking to former marines being part of that decision).
 
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It was 2 guys now...anyway here is the story

I was playing hockey and went down to stop the ball and felt my knee go out and just stayed there tons of pain and the whole class gathered around me. I tried to get up but collapsed and went back down, i couldn't get up....so they had to help me up and i left school and hardly being able to walk at all...anyway then it got better as a few months passed and i went back into the gym and played some basketball and jumped up in the air, came down and before i hit the ground i took my knee out AGAIN and left home in pain. I then had surgery about 2-3 months later and even though they said for me to stay off my leg i just crawled around the house rather then stay in bed and took the pain. Then i didnt feel my knee anymore and it was about 1-2 months early and got it checked and it seemed fine...went back to the specialist and it seemed fine except everytime i left it would hurt alittle...then near haloween a few years ago i jumped on my bed to look out the window and i took my knee out again :/ anyway then still a few years ago i went to Vancouver and played hockey there my knee felt fine and stuff and i went down and WHAM my knee went out AGAIN and that was the last time i've taken it out, i even got gross looking xrays that almost make me throw up everytime i see them of my knee...i havent taken my knee out in a few years but time to time wheather i'm kneeling or just out of the blue walking around i can feel alittle pain. My surgery was orthoscopic surgery...i took out my ACL or something.
 

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Ouch. Wow i've got some knee problems as well, but not as bad as your sounds, and i'm pretty much forbidden from any type of running or jogging ( i'm only 25) which prevents me from any type of military service. I'm not really bumed about it either cause my frind from HS just got back after finishing his 4 years, and from the stories that i've heard the middle east is just a F'd up place to be, and that nobody that comes home every tells the truth because if they did, every person over there would have to be courtmarsheled. I had to tell him to stop after he told me how his 1st C.O got removed because he got 5 women pregnant including one of the woman in his unit, and what everyone suspect were a few minors.

So yeah count your busted knee as a blessing in disguise, i do.
 
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Well i'm going to my doctors first to see if he says if it's any good for the military, i'm presuming it's not though. Maybe i'll get into computers or something.
 

geogob

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Well with a problem like that, a lot of trades are out for sure. Don't even think about infantry or stuff like that. It's pretty serious problem and you wouldn't want that to happen in the field. Consulting your doctor first is a very good idea. Try to learn for him more specific details on what you can and cannot do.
 
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Does this mean all military is out? i know some dont require fighting but all have to go through bootcamp.

Also i'm thinking of maybe getting knee surgery again and letting it heal rather then walk on it when i'm not supposed to...maybe it will get better this time, one can only hope :(
 
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DEFkon

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all i can say is be careful when it comes to your knees. Medical science regarding those joints (or all joints for that matter) is still pretty much bear skins, and stone knives. We all depend on them everyday just to walk around, let alone jog or run so their value can not be understated, and yet they're pretty vunrable if you consdier how often people bust them in some way.

Anyway if i were you'd i'd just be greatful that i could walk around. But see what you doctor says.
 

chuckus

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Does this mean all military is out? i know some dont require fighting but all have to go through bootcamp.

You may or may not make it through "bootcamp" (keep in mind I did reservist training so it'll be harder for you as a reg force guy)

Bootcamp isn't as hardcore as movies make it to be. It'snot a hell week really (Hell comes on the final EXs of the later courses). The kind of pain you endure in training isn't really shock pain like getting hit by someone. It's mostly long term and over an hour of humping with a big ruck on your back kinda throbbing pain. You won't be doing advanced infantry attack techniques or even basic ones. you'll learn field craft and basic weapons skills. No application so if you play it safe you should be ok. Your knee seems to fall out when you put intense shock on it. Places you may have problems are extreme PT (happens a few times during training as punishment), Rough Terrain marches and obstacle courses. Don't drag ass and fall on a rock or something you'll be ok. I wouldn't recommend it with that bum knee of yours but you may make it through training.
 
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Well..that board is the most negative board i've been too...you've got people saying don't join, you've got people being a dick because i don't wanna join because i didn't think at the time, people telling me i wont cut it, people telling me i dont know what i'm talking about...
 

chuckus

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All I'm saying is doing an army course with a bum knee to begin with would limit your career progression substantially even IF you managed to pass your basic. It's a hard cold reality but to advance you'd have to go through leadership courses which are heavily physical. Really, you're knee is grounds for an application rejection and the only way you could get in is to lie about it's severity.

At the end of my infantry course, I had a second knee injury shortly after my first one finally healed up. It was agony. But I had a 2 days before my final exercise so the medic doing the exam closed off our cubicle and told me real quietly "I'm going to give you the standard knee injury test. If you admit to having pain during any pert of the exam I will be forced to take you off the course and you'll have to come back and do it all over again next year. So the choice is yours." He put my knee through seceral different bends and twists and every shot of pain I winced and said "feels fine". I did my 3 day final ex limping and cussing at the intense pain but got through my course. I got lucky since no real permanent damage (to my knowledge) was sustained but I know a lot of guys who are stuck at corporal, and worse yet, can't do the things they love because of exactly what I did and what you are proposing to do.

Think long and hard about what's more important to you because given your current knee condition you may suffer irreperable damage to your knee and not only will you not be in the army, you won't play hokcey, run a marathon or do much of anything physically intense afterwards. It sucks but you need to consider these things before jumping head first into things.

It sounds to me like your asking someone to just pat you on the back and say "You'll be fine! Go ahead you have my blessing". That's fine. But I"m telling you now the people on these forums are level headed and reasonable people who tend to weigh consequences versus benefit. Unfortunately, you won't find what you're looking for here.
 
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