JB-Tomb-Beta

The_Head · Sep 30, 2004

I have finally got around to releasing a version of my JB map, Tomb-Beta.
As you can see from the name it is Beta, I know there are things to fix but i wanted to just release so ppl can test it and let me know what they think and how to improve it.
Bugs I know of:
1) Level has some Lighting errors, (will be fixed before final version)
2) Bots are a bit Dopey at times
3) no screenshots atm.
4) Dodgy playermap, (didn't spend a lot of time masking it properly. (if anyone reckons they can do a better job let me know)

This map will be put on the KOKRULL JB server as soon as i get in contact with the host - Darchangel.
I will put a download link hear when i have done it. (tomorrow as it takes a while for link to get to website properly)

disturbedbassist · Sep 30, 2004

Sent by Head.

Tested with 6, 7, 8 and 8 bots each team (including Player). Half of the bots don't do much, or if they do they hide somewhere annoying.

Other than the above issue, nothing else seems to be a problem. Love the Jail excecution :man:

The_Head · Sep 30, 2004

Welcome to Beyondunreal forums Reaper

Download link here and in my sig

I'm not sure why bots are so dopey, ahwell thats what Beta testing is for

Also Darchangel has just put the map on the KOKRULL server and it has redirect so u don't have to download from here if u really don't want to

Mychaeel · Oct 1, 2004

Hmm, looks nice -- I'll give it a run later today.

CoolDude · Oct 1, 2004

I had a quick look just now.

This map plays very laggy on my P4-2.4GHz with GForce4-TI4200.
Now I know my PC is not that top of the bail anymore, but this is the only JB map which gives me trouble.

The map itself looks good.
A bit big for my taste, but I always like smaller (fast playing) maps more.

The_Head · Oct 1, 2004

CoolDude said:
This map plays very laggy on my P4-2.4GHz with GForce4-TI4200.
Now I know my PC is not that top of the bail anymore, but this is the only JB map which gives me trouble.

Optimising is somit that i have not done any of yet on this map. I didn't bother as it runs well on my pc (starngely, a lower spec than that - Athlon XP2100+, 2x256MB RAM dual channel and a Radeon 9500pro) and up to now no-one has had a prob (my freinds have all tried it before i put it here)
I will fix this prob for next version, i think a combination of Zones and antiportals if needed will do the trick very well as the level has few mehs and simple lighting (but still looks good IMO)

Keep the feedback coming. cheers

Mychaeel · Oct 1, 2004

There's an incredible amount of overdraw in that map -- some zoning and (perhaps) some antiportals would probably do a lot of good without requiring much effort.

Otherwise, it's nice, as far as I can judge on my lowly notebook...

Jrubzjeknf · Oct 2, 2004

gl on it, head doesn't know how to do level optimization :lol:

GET THE FREAKIN VTM!!

ps. I don't see any jail execution, you just explode into gibs... Or isn't there any yet?

The_Head · Oct 2, 2004

Ah shut it. Thsis map is gonna be the easiest map in the world to optimize. I am perfectly capable of Zoning. It just there is a weird fps dropping bug in Equilibrium (i call it to much in too little space)

4WD · Oct 2, 2004

it's soo funny 2 be llama in jail there

and havent got any lags while testing yesterday on xp2400+ 1gig fx5900xt

disturbedbassist · Oct 2, 2004

On the subject of lag...

P4 3.06 Ghz w/ Nvidia GeForce 4200Ti

No lag whatsoever.

Ravu al Hemio · Oct 6, 2004

Nice map!
Keep up the good work!

Have had no problems 'til now.

The_Head · Oct 10, 2004

Another download link courtesy of Sexmachine
here

4WD · Nov 20, 2004

some warnings im my server log

Code:

ScriptLog: Warning - PATHS NOT DEFINED or NO PLAYERSTART with positive rating
ScriptLog: Warning - PATHS NOT DEFINED or NO PLAYERSTART with positive rating
ScriptLog: Warning - PATHS NOT DEFINED or NO PLAYERSTART with positive rating
ScriptLog: Warning - PATHS NOT DEFINED or NO PLAYERSTART with positive rating
ScriptLog: Warning - PATHS NOT DEFINED or NO PLAYERSTART with positive rating

also a better botpathing is maybe necessary

The_Head · Nov 22, 2004

4WD said:
also a better botpathing is maybe necessary

I knew about the prob with paths. I have pathnoded it but I haven't put assaultpaths vcto make them "think" once I have done that (might do it eventually) they will then attack intelligently.
I dunno whyu they are so ****, perhaps I forgot to build paths properly before i released it (big noobie style mistake :lol:

)

Birelli · Nov 22, 2004

You don't necessarily need AssaultPaths to get the bots to use each route equally. Sometimes setting an "ExtraCost" on a few select PathNodes will have the same effect. In other words, put a little "deterrent" on each of the paths that the bots use the most frequently. Try 500 or 1000 to start. If they stop using those paths altogether, lower the value. If they still keep using them, raise it much higher (like 5000). If that doesn't work then maybe consider AssaultPaths, but since it requires almost no thought/work to implement I usually use that method (yes I'm lazy). Once you find the values where all the paths are balanced out you can do small tweaks to get them to favor paths you think work better if you like.

The_Head · Nov 22, 2004

Thanks

Birelli said:
You don't necessarily need .............favor paths you think work better if you like.

Thanks mate. I never thought of that. I can remember reading somit similar for getting bots to use lifts more by lowering the Extracost.
I might give that a go, as although I know how to use assault paths, it would be a right pain linking them all up. I really think I should get on with this map.....

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