Dell has gone out of its way to prove to us that it is still exceedingly stupid and still controls a commanding share of the worlds MORON market.
Dude, don't get a Dell.
Dude, don't get a Dell.
"Hello my name is Dell and I suck."
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Dell's desktop and workstation machines are not that bad. If you want a warrantied system that is halfway decent, I recommend a dell for the basic user. Their laptops are nice, too. Otherwise buy one of my Dead Cat Phanatics custom built PCs 
Yay, whoever wrote this got the numbers off the open market without any insight into the contracts between Dell and Intel. Ergo, the author does not know what prices Intel can deliver to Dell compared to how low AMD is capable of going.
Then there is the thing about it being harder to sell AMD's than Intel's because they are precieved by many as not being reliable. "You get what you pay for" and so on.
Dell is one of the most successful computer manufacturers out there, so I think they know what they are doing. If they could profit from using AMD then they would. Unfortunately for AMD, that Intel sticker still counts far more for most people than the 5% FPS advantage in UT'03.
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whoever buys dell willingly must be truly stupid. i can make a the same computers they can for at least 700 dollars cheaper. its like legos.
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I agree whole heartedly. Orginally I ws lookin at the dell xps but I was like good lord its pricey...so I started to look at building my own...in the end, I built my own and i saved about 1200 dollarscodenet said:
Same for me Boron. I checked out a bunch of small companies as well (which their prices were significantly lower than Dell's) but were still out of my price range. So I decided to just buy all my own parts and slap together a computer .
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Not only is it cheaper, you get that sense of pride and "Good job." going about ya when you slap together your first comp.
I agree that I can put together (and troubleshoot) and new PC better and cheaper than Dell. And most of us here on these boards can, too. And for myself, I'll never buy another PC - building is the only way to go.
But when it came time for a PC for my parents? I bought 'em a Dell - with the extended service contract and priority support. No brainer. I don't want to get calls all the time about things not working and having to deal with it. Say what you will about the prices on Dells, if you've got parents (friends, whatever) that are computer-illiterate, buying them a Dell is one of the best things you can do. Easily worth the extra money.
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But when it came time for a PC for my parents? I bought 'em a Dell - with the extended service contract and priority support. No brainer. I don't want to get calls all the time about things not working and having to deal with it. Say what you will about the prices on Dells, if you've got parents (friends, whatever) that are computer-illiterate, buying them a Dell is one of the best things you can do. Easily worth the extra money.
Matthew
I agree. I also think Dell made a wise decision. Sure... it's 64bit... but are there programs out there that would take advantage of it?
Damn it Big_Duke I was about to say the same thing..now I am just going to look like an unoriginal ass.
Oh well.
I am going to go computer shopping with my dad tomorrow. My dad is an intelligent person. He could probably put a completely disassembled car back to together with no problem. He can also deal with all kinds of confusing (to me at least) copier circuitry and such with ease. He cannot, however, wrap his mind around the concept of using a computer, much less building his own. So when I go shopping with him tomorrow, we are going to Best Buy and buying either an e-machine or a Dell. It doesn't have to be top-notch, just better than their current system, and I want them to have a number besides mine to call when something goes wrong.
Oh well.
I am going to go computer shopping with my dad tomorrow. My dad is an intelligent person. He could probably put a completely disassembled car back to together with no problem. He can also deal with all kinds of confusing (to me at least) copier circuitry and such with ease. He cannot, however, wrap his mind around the concept of using a computer, much less building his own. So when I go shopping with him tomorrow, we are going to Best Buy and buying either an e-machine or a Dell. It doesn't have to be top-notch, just better than their current system, and I want them to have a number besides mine to call when something goes wrong.
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! NOT E-MACHINE!!!!!!!!! EEEEEP!!!!
Just order a Dell from their website if you are going to buy a fully assembled computer. I have only heard bad and more bad about e-Machines and HP from friends/online buddies. They are extremely poor in the upgrading department, and considering how fast electronics/technology move these days, you'll need upgrades in about a year or less. And with an e-Machine, which is not upgrade friendly, you will end up buying a totally new computer, rather than upgrading for a fraction of the cost.
Just order a Dell from their website if you are going to buy a fully assembled computer. I have only heard bad and more bad about e-Machines and HP from friends/online buddies. They are extremely poor in the upgrading department, and considering how fast electronics/technology move these days, you'll need upgrades in about a year or less. And with an e-Machine, which is not upgrade friendly, you will end up buying a totally new computer, rather than upgrading for a fraction of the cost.
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Yup, I've built many a machine for myself. However, the real money dell makes is not in the home market, but in the mass production for business. Boeing uses dell machines, and has for a long time. When you need 20,000 new machines, you don't go to a small time firm, or build them yourselvesFeelTheUniverseXXX said:You still get that feeling once you've slapped together about 20, too
Dell can deliver exatly that, and all the special customizations you want for them, too.
See, you are still thinking like someone who cares about computers and staying current. My parents will not need an upgrade in a year or less. Heck, the only reason they are even getting a new one is because their old one isn't quite working right. I could probably pull and swap some parts in it and fix the problem, but since it has been awhile (over 3 years) since they purchased that computer, they figure they could use an upgrade anyway. Note that they do not need an upgrade because of anything they do with the computer, but rather the old is broken and they might as well buy a newer one.
Any sane* person would see that you are correct, but my parents are far from sane*.
*In this instance, sane = tech-savvy
Sure I can build a machine cheaper, thats nothing new, and its never been different. Go ahead and say the same thing for any other pc manufacturer.
But if you actually use quality parts, intel motherboard, corsair ram, chieftec case, etc etc you'll be ALOT closer to dells price than you think. They're parts are quality, believe it or not.
Go to the dell site, price out the cheapest one you can with 3.0ghz 1gb ddr, then go to price watch, pick quality parts, name brand only and you'll end up with a 300 to 500$ max difference in price between dell and a quality home built pc/incl OS. Then you dont have any support, you ordered your parts from 10 different cheapest retailers(god forbid something be bad), you have to actually build it, install the os, and get it all up to speed(add 2hrs labor for that). Dell is alot closer to a good price than some may think if your comparing apples to apples. All things considered, they're selling a product that is certainly worth it to those people that can't or don't want to go the build it yourself route.
ohhh and stay away from emachine!
go to www.gotapex.com www.slickdeals.net, find a dell with a coupon and or rebate, get a good deal on something.
But if you actually use quality parts, intel motherboard, corsair ram, chieftec case, etc etc you'll be ALOT closer to dells price than you think. They're parts are quality, believe it or not.
Go to the dell site, price out the cheapest one you can with 3.0ghz 1gb ddr, then go to price watch, pick quality parts, name brand only and you'll end up with a 300 to 500$ max difference in price between dell and a quality home built pc/incl OS. Then you dont have any support, you ordered your parts from 10 different cheapest retailers(god forbid something be bad), you have to actually build it, install the os, and get it all up to speed(add 2hrs labor for that). Dell is alot closer to a good price than some may think if your comparing apples to apples. All things considered, they're selling a product that is certainly worth it to those people that can't or don't want to go the build it yourself route.
ohhh and stay away from emachine!
go to www.gotapex.com www.slickdeals.net, find a dell with a coupon and or rebate, get a good deal on something.
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