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Windows 10 to be released this summer

Discussion in 'Hardware, Software & Troubleshooting' started by Al, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. Al

    Al Reaper

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    http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...is-summer-in-190-countries-and-111-languages/

     
  2. WedgeBob

    WedgeBob XSI Mod Tool User

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    All the more reason for me to get moving with building that new rig up in time for the release of this version of Windows.
     
  3. Raynor.Z

    Raynor.Z Ad Nocendum Potentes Sumus

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    Under the hood, Win10 is an vast improvement and could be worthwhile upgrade. If they only could improve that hideous, flat phone-like UI. User interface stuff usually comes in at later stages so there's still hope though.
     
  4. Hunter

    Hunter BeyondUnreal Newsie

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    Think this will be when I finally get an SSD for my OS as the rest of my machine is still pretty good.
     
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  5. Wormbo

    Wormbo Administrator Staff Member

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    I just read an interesting opinion on a free (as in free beer) upgrade for Windows: In the movie "I, Robot" the manufacturing company also offered a free upgrade from NS-4 to NS-5, which would regularly go online to get updates. The final update then made them go online permanently to receive orders and turn against their owners.
     
  6. Al

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    Welp, RIP human race.
     
  7. WedgeBob

    WedgeBob XSI Mod Tool User

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    For me, this might be the first time when I might have two SSDs in my rig that I'm building. One for Windows, then the other for Steam (NOT SteamOS). I find it best to have a dedicated SSD for gaming on besides the main boot one. Although I might start off with a high-capacity SSD as in the Intel 730 SSD 480GB that I got about a month or two ago. If I feel it's necessary to have a more dedicated one for booting, I'll probably move Windows onto a smaller Samsung 850 EVO or something later on as part of the Windows 10 upgrade license or something. We'll see how that goes.
     
  8. Wormbo

    Wormbo Administrator Staff Member

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    If you say so...

    Still Microsoft bumping their Win10 nagware for Win7 EVERY FUCKING MONTH despite hiding the update every time is slightly... unpleasant.
    (Not to mention the lack of actual update descriptions, causing me to memorize the KB number of the offending updates.)
     
  9. Balton

    Balton The Beast of Worship

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    Once out the xbox one will also get an upgrade to win10.
     
  10. Manticore

    Manticore Official BUF Birthday Spammer

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    Word.

    Fuck M$. I'm fine with W7.......................
     
  11. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    I like Win 10 just fine so far.
     
  12. Hadmar

    Hadmar Queen Bitch of the Universe

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    Anything new on the Win 10 license possibly being tied to the hardware you activated it on?
     
  13. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    It absolutely is, just like previous versions. I don't know what kind of changes are going to trigger the activation thing. Hopefully they won't be buttfaces and will let you reactivate after doing minor upgrades but there has to be something that makes it not qualify as the same computer anymore (I would assume CPU/MB).
     
  14. Hunter

    Hunter BeyondUnreal Newsie

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    I'm looking forward to W10. 8.1 wasn't to bad the UI was just a bit of a mess for a desktop computer, however it worked fine on a tablet. Just waiting for the upgrade to pop up next week, hopefully!

    I think it'll be a motherboard change which would prompt a new activation, as you'd probably be reinstalling the OS anyway?
     
  15. Hadmar

    Hadmar Queen Bitch of the Universe

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    Ah, see, it isn't, not here anyway. Right now the assumption is that our "free upgrade" to Win 10 converts our non hardware-tied licenses to hardware-tied ones.

    Bad deal.
     
  16. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    Your previous key is tied to your hardware the instant you activate it. Microsoft is just "benevolent" and lets you keep activating it after they want you to if you bother to call them after a certain number of times. There is no precedent for what will happen with Win 10 right now, they could continue that "benevolence" or they could stop it.
     
  17. Hadmar

    Hadmar Queen Bitch of the Universe

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    In Germany the license is not tied to the hardware. Here there is no "benevolence" involved when MS has to activate Windows when you call them. They have to, it's the law.

    The uncertainty with Win 10 is based on the wording in something MS released. The idea was that based on that, MS might try a new angle to tie the license to the hardware.

    But I just found this:
    http://www.computerbase.de/2015-07/...updates-support-zeitraum-und-hardwarebindung/
    Based on the EULA from build 10240 there's no tying of the license to the hardware in Germany.
     
  18. Sir_Brizz

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    Ah, thanks. Wasn't considering the international angle there.
     
  19. Wormbo

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    While they can't enforce the hardware binding, they can enforce all Win10 updates. That's okay for security-related updates, but not for new features. Even the enterprise edition doesn't fully prevent that, you have to explicitly install a special no-updates version to be able to infinitely postpone feature updates.
     
  20. DarkED

    DarkED The Great Oppression

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    As far as licensing goes, what you guys are talking to is only limited to OEM (and probably the free upgrade) keys. Retail boxed copies of Windows have always been licensed in a way that allowed you to install it on as many successive machines as you wished; you're just supposed to not have it running on multiple machines at once, and you have to call-in to activate sometimes.

    Hopefully, Windows 10 won't be changing that.
     

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