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Why the low UT3 adoption?

Discussion in 'Unreal Tournament 3' started by TehLlama, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    Because what is the point of having vehicles if you are almost always more effective outside than inside? You might as well just remove them.
     
  2. oldkawman

    oldkawman Master of Your Disaster

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    If you played the war servers with T5K on it or any of the other WAR clans, you would get pawned, spanked, and humiliated. We all play DM, TDM, BTA, and vCTF along with other game modes. You should come and show everyone just how good you are and prove yourself as something other than the troll you act like.
     
  3. WHIPperSNAPper

    WHIPperSNAPper New Member

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    I disagree. The UT 2004 vehicles feel much better than the UT3 vehicles and they also offer first person view, which is important for flying vehicles and the Goliath. I think they're easier to control as well. Consequently, I prefer UT 2004's Onslaught over UT3 Warfare. UT3 Warfare isn't all that bad, but it's not nearly as much fun as Onslaught. Also, the invisible mine-laying vehicle in UT3 is horrible and needs to go.

    I play Onslaught all the time and I haven't noticed any shortage of people getting into and using vehicles as a result of this, even on wide open maps like Minus Tank Me Up where you can hit tanks from a good distance with the shock rifle. Players on foot get killed all the time and so do people in vehicles.

    I do play UT3 now and then, btw, but it's for regular Weapons CTF which isn't too bad, but not as much fun as CTF in the original UT99. I don't know if it's the server I play on or what, but it feels like it's 50-100% faster than in the original UT99, which means less control over your character and the fighting.
     
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  4. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    I wasn't commenting on the balance of the vehicles or the entertainment level of the associated gametypes. I find that the way UT3 vehicles control is WAY better than in 2k4, but that's obviously quite subjective. I also like the dynamic in Warfare more than in Onslaught, but again, subjective.
    I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone, but the majority of people who play Onslaught completely suck at the game. Note that I'm not saying people who play Warfare are any better. But, frankly, when you are dealing with a bunch of average players, it doesn't matter if they are in vehicles or not, and it doesn't matter if other average players are in vehicles are not.

    Me and a few other people used to go on Onslaught servers and basically stomp them without even touching the vehicles. The player to vehicle balance is so bad that just having a small amount of aim and the right weapons means that very few people are going to kill you with a vehicle.
    I haven't played UT online for at least a year I think, but I don't have any perceptible difference between the two games (except for the higher system requirements and all the stuff derived from that)... but this subject is again highly subjective.
     
  5. Cowlike

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    It's because the transloc travels faster in UT3
     
  6. Northrawn

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    Hooray for gameplay... ...which woks in UT2k4 and is plainly retarded in UT3 (vehicle gametypes, DM CTF is good).

    Weapon plaement and map design was bad in UT2k4 ONS, though. UT3's is horrible (unless you don't care for solid gameplay and are omgTITANliekwtflolol11!!!)
     
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  7. Northrawn

    Northrawn New Member

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    Seems a lot people from the BU-casual crowd never learned them. No, I am not a pr0 either, but saying without vehicle you are more successful clearly tells you haven't played UT2k4 longer than 3 days after initial demo release.
     
  8. Grobut

    Grobut Комиссар Гробут

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    Because only a very small group of people actually are that enthusiastic? and all the rest of us have long since given up on the game for one reason or another?

    Sorry, but thats just how it is, and i see no reason why it would change now.
     
  9. yoyo1

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    ill 1v1 any member of t5k/boom/any of the other newbie war clans.
     
  10. yoyo1

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    the only vehicle i wouldnt kill you in is the scorpion which is indeed useless except against mantas. you must be horrible at ut2k4.
     
  11. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    They seem pretty much identical to me. The only map in 2k4 that wasn't exactly like that was Dawn.
    Well, you're welcome to your opinion there, but I played vehicle gametypes all the time in 2k4 and I never had problems taking down any Scorpion, Manta, Raptor or Hellbender, which are the majority of vehicles in the game. Most of the time you could even easily take down tanks, which just leaves the Leviathan (and even with the Leviathan in 2k4, it could be taken down WAY too easily).
    Heh. I wouldn't count on it. I really have no interest in trying to defend my skill at UT2004, but my opinion is shared by lots of people (of 2k4 vehicles, not necessarily UT3 ones).
     
  12. yoyo1

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    not shared by anyone good at ut2k4 tho.
     
  13. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    Okay, whatever :lol:
     
  14. FuLLBLeeD

    FuLLBLeeD fart

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    How to be a UT2k4 superstar.

    1. Equip Shock Rifle.
    2. Tape down mouse 1.
     
  15. JohnDoe641

    JohnDoe641 Killer Fools Pro Staff Member

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    Thruths.
     
  16. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    You forgot

    3. PROFIT!!!!!!!!!?
     
  17. Bi()ha2arD

    Bi()ha2arD Toxic!

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    on a warfare map too?
     
  18. Sanch3z1973

    Sanch3z1973 New Member

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    We understand perfectly that shock vs vehicle in 2k4 was unbalanced. We dont care, that is how we prefer to play. How long are you going to cry about the same thing? If you dont like it, dont play it..... <---- I've been saying that to you for 2 years now :lol:

    Maybe people should start playing their game of preference rather than posting on forums with the same old story over and over and over.......... That is the realization I have come to: 2k4 kicks UT3's ass..... And I will be supporting and enjoying my favorite game until there is a true successor.
     
  19. Sanch3z1973

    Sanch3z1973 New Member

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    oh FYI, we didnt mess with the player or vehicle hitboxes in UT3 so saying we restored the 2k4 shock rifle "feeling" to UT3 is false. We did increase the ROF, and vehicle damage amount but it is still harder to land your shot in UT3. I would have changed the hitboxes too but that is above my abilities. :D
     
  20. FuLLBLeeD

    FuLLBLeeD fart

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    Hahah guys, look how cool I am, ****posting about a dead game. :smug:
     

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