>and oh about banning guns, its easy...
Banning guns may be easy, but getting guns out of the hands of criminals is damn near impossible.
>take away the guns from the whole hearted stoic wannabe people who claim that hunting is a necessaty (such a good thing to keep the population at safe levels)...Hey yo, we wouldnt be killing them if it isnt for human expansion!
In case you didn't know, humans are animals. We all have our place in the food chain. The only reason hunting IS legal is because it is necessary to keep the animal population down here. Whether we expand or not, if the deer population grows too high, they will eat every last food source available to them, and then they will all die off.
>maybe we should keep humans at a safe population instead. we can start with the people who want to legalize handguns, and concealment, the same people who make it easier for criminals to kill, and kid's to blast each other with.
Where I live, handguns are legal, and you can carry them concealed if you have the proper permits. This does NOT make it easier for criminals to kill, because criminals can not and do not obtain those permits, or buy handguns legally, so whether those are legal or not makes no difference to them. If anything, it makes it harder on the criminals, because people can walk down the street with a gun, of course the criminal would rather be attacking an unarmed person. (Btw, almost 75% of convicted criminals in a prison poll said they had decided against committing at least 1 crime because they feared their victim was armed) It also doesn't make it easier for kids to kids to kill eachother, when that happens the blame lands solely on the parents. You know that 6 year old that killed another kid with a gun recently? The gun was stolen! Stealing is already illegal, making guns illegal wouldn't do jack shit.
>and i know, i know,
how are we gonna protect ourselves,
criminals can get guns regardless of any laws
blah blah blah,
What? You speak of the 2 most important facts about gun control (more properly called gun-owner-control) like they don't matter! Every year in the US, 2 MILLION people protect themselves with guns, and only 35,000 get killed by guns. Also, somewhere near 95% of guns used in crimes were obtained illegally. Put these 2 things together, and it's obvious that GUN CONTROL DOES MORE BAD THAN GOOD.
>i believe in the constitution and the right of a militia (not some paranoid anti-gov bunch of shit heels) but a real militia called upon to fight for the people and the government not against it in times of need to bear arms.
Maybe you should read the 2nd amendment again...
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
You read it, "THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE". And, the general function of a militia is not for the government, they're supposed to be generally against it. They aren't like a military, who takes orders from the government, they watch the government closely and keep it in line, as an avoidance to tyranny. America was founded by such people, who faught against their own tyrannical goverment and earned their freedom. In case you didn't know, the last straw was gun control. The revolutionary war began when the redcoats came for the minutemen's guns.
>but how many of the minute men had semi auto handguns? modified assault equipment like car-15's, ak's tech-9's?
So what if we have more advanced gun technology now? That helps the people defending themselves, too. In the 93 L.A. riots, the only buildings left standing on some streets were owned by Korean shopowners with semi-auto rifles, like AR-15's. Oh, and don't forget that the minutemen had cannon.
>they had a musket with 1 shot every 2 minutes r.o.f.
Actually, the average well-trained soldier could get off 4 shots every minute on a good day. It's still slow, but as I said, that doesn't matter.
>i say go back to the old school, muskets and all, its just as effecient for hunting as it ever was, or needed to be i should say.
Hmmm, would you want to hunt bear or mountain lion with a gun that needs 15 seconds in between each shot? For me, even bolt-action is a stretch, I'd feel safer with a semi-auto for dangerous game. And what would doing this solve? (And what exactly is this your saying we should do?)
>granted ,"all guns can kill", or ,"its not the gun that kills...", or ,"you gotta pry this gun from my dying hands".
I think you mean "guns don't kill people, people kill people". If not, what are you saying?
>the fact still remains that more people have died from guns than from religion,
and thats pretty f###ed up.
And what about the countless people saved by guns? Remember, it's over 6,000 people every DAY, in the US alone.
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