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UT3 Singleplayer - Desires?

Discussion in 'Unreal Tournament 3' started by Hyrage, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    Really? I didn't find it all that serious, really. I think mostly the players wanted it to be serious and they took it that way (which wasn't helped by the fact that Epic presented it as serious in previews/pre-release trailers).
    UC2 had quite a bit of cutscenes. And it did have more gamemodes, however most of the added gamemodes wouldn't work in regular UT. Nali slaughter for example wouldn't work without melee weapons really.

    UT3 could have taken a note from UC2, though. Despite the fact that it had "Campaign" it also had the regular old tournament in it.
     
  2. GreatEmerald

    GreatEmerald Khnumhotep

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    UBerserker, I don't think Epic will forget Unreal III. I mean, in all of the forums I visit people talk about what's going to be next, and most of the people agree that it should be Unreal III. They must be completely blind if they don't notice that. Plus it's a very returning topic, you get to discuss this over and over again.
    And it should not be a prequel, it's against the laws of time in the series. However, if they notice the Timeline they wrote, Unreal III should tell the story of Green Worlds Rebellion and such. A lot of time still there before UT99 times start.
     
  3. JohnDoe641

    JohnDoe641 Killer Fools Pro Staff Member

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    My sp desires? Well, it's not really about story to me, I want bots that I actually have a hard time playing against instead of breezing through the hardest skill level. Take a note from the CPMA bots, now those are annoyingly good unlike the bots in the Unreal series.

    I want a challenge and if there's no challenge to bot play, then there's no reason for me to ever play a botmatch offline.
     
  4. Wowbagger

    Wowbagger Curing the infection...

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    That got me thinking (yeah, yeah ;))

    A coop mod where you pick out 4-6 of the most memorable moments/sections of Unreal and turn them into "movies" or missions ala L4D.

    I would pay for it, no doubt.
     
  5. Kazimira

    Kazimira Necris Fan

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    What might have been nice and give us a bit more content to mod with and play with would be a single player campaighn from each teams perspective. All kind of ending up at each lot joining the tournament with resons to do so. A tutorial of how each wepon and each veacle works thrown in and the single player is like an entertaining tutorial for the multiplayer. Should be enough single player content to keep those that dont go for the multiplayer content to be happy and more than enough multiplayer maps and content. That would also keep the map makers and modders happy.That and it would be fun to play the campaighn as a Necris.
     
  6. Bishop F Gantry

    Bishop F Gantry New Member

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    Something intresting that can be played either single or coop with a well developed story, maby some team managemnt thrown in, train and equipp your team with weapons vehicles and armor, train their reflexes, strenght etc.


    I dont like the tournament especially not the direction Epic has taken it. the team managment in UT200x has some potential, initially it wasent very much you could do with it.

    -hire guys
    -heal guys
    -challenge guys

    Thats about it, if Epic evolved that future that you could buy weapons armors and vehicles or able to train your buddies endurance, strenght, speed ontop of managing their health, it would certainly make the tournament more intresting since you have something to actually care for. Epic made alot of promises about the AI aswell perhaps hold up to those aswell.

    I dont fancy UT3's supposed singleplayer either, mainly because it isnt singleplayer, its just deathmatch with bots and a tacky storyline with poorly developed characters slapped on... Honestly here who of you whom completted UT3 didnt want, want Reaper to die in the end...


    What Epic says and what Epic does have nothing in common buddie, picked up that since ut2k3...

    Mm Unreal3 is pretty much just a pipedream...
    UC2 done as an exlusive console title? Cant really agree to that...

    Deathmatch with bots is to serious for you? Really because thats all UT3 singleplayer was exluding that shoddy story and poorly developed characters. Gears of War beats it by lightyears in terms of quality...

    Epic havent really catered to an online mutliplayer community, while they have released a couple of games they havent included much of services for the community to grow or stay connected.

    L4D has a story altough subtle, its filled with one liners and a zombie outbreak is a silly premise, however it does it well compared to say UT3, L4D got the formula done right with Single/Multi/Coop and the Versus mode allows you to play as freakin Zombies...

    With Invasion gone how likley is that to happen though.
     
  7. Defeat

    Defeat GET EM WITH THE BACKSMACK WOOOOO

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  8. UBerserker

    UBerserker old EPIC GAMES

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    No. I was talking about how the Single Player part of UC2 was done.
     
  9. hal

    hal Dictator Staff Member

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    By silly premises, I meant things like FLaGs. By one-liners I meant stuff like "food co-ret". Things like that.
     
  10. Raynor.Z

    Raynor.Z Ad Nocendum Potentes Sumus

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    Tournament - nothing less, nothing more. Is that too much asked?
     
  11. J112

    J112 Very Superstitious

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    +1. I actually enjoyed the tournament single player of 2k4.
     
  12. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle spam noob

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    The story certainly was too serious for me to be able to swallow it. If it was intended as tongue in cheek, it went way over my head.
     
  13. xMurphyx

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    At first I thought this was meant as a joke and I thought, ha, cool, let's play CTF to kill the OpFor. Then I brought the last flag home to supposedly stop the enemy respawners but then I didn't even have to kill the remaining opponents off? Please? What was I doing here? Even if a player accepts the shoddy FLaG explanation the game doesn't even put its money where its mouth is!

    A shame, maybe, because apart from the stupid joke-factor it might have made a fun gamemode. Like, every player/team has a certain number of lives and capturing the FLaG takes some away from the other team. That way capping flags would still be very important but raw killing power would factor in some more as well. And it would have made sense in the messy singleplayer. Some more sense than the current solution at least.

    As for singleplayer, I'd like to see the Tournaments return too. Either as in UC2 with a personal story, cutscenes and some side-missions here and there or as a dynamic tournament ala UT2004 but with a little more depth and some interaction with the team members. Perferrably both. One UC2-like Tournament for a character (demoguy?) and beating it on any difficulty unlocks the regular Tournament mode which works more like UT2004.
     
  14. Kazimira

    Kazimira Necris Fan

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    I have a feeling when the flags are gone the other team just runs. Respawners are a great idea till thay are gone and those used to them probably turn tail as soon as thay dont have that protection.
     
  15. Fuzz

    Fuzz Enigma

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    A two player coop with extreme action and mature language. Think Kane and Lynch. Make it as Unreal as possible. You want to feel presence and have a thick storyline to follow. Make it personal with long lasting grudges. It must be familiar and plausible so it won't look made up completely. Ditch the game/arena/tournament aspect and introduce a real war instead. Tournament is for competitive multiplayer.

    Sounds more like an idea for Unreal III, not an Unreal Tournament sequel or expansion. When it comes to Kane and Lynch, believe the hype. Awesomeness, here I come!
     
  16. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    Why does it need mature language? Every game I've ever played with tons of swearing in it sucks and also sounds so forced and worthless.
     
  17. Fuzzle

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    Company of Heroes is an exception! It felt pretty natural there.

    Jesus, Conrad! Tie your ****ing laces!
    *while pinned down by stationary machine guns* Anyone got a ****ing grenade?!

    Imo these type of lines would be more forced if the swears were replaced with "fricken" and "gosh darnit". Yeah, depends on the quality of the acting too obviously, but I quite liked CoH's.
     
  18. TheIronKnuckle

    TheIronKnuckle What the hell is this "ballin" thing?

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    Give me a tournament like ut99. I want to pick my team, but i don't want to pick my team members. It really felt more like you were a part of a team when you were all human and wore the same armour. Not like in 2k3/4 where your team is made up of every species in the game. And i liked it how the ut99 single player added descriptions for everyone you fought and the maps you were playing on. There WAS a story there, you just had to look to find it. Maybe if they replaced the character descriptions with cutscenes that showed just how n00b or badass the guy is it would be more interesting.


    Now call me a n00b, but i still enjoy playing the ut99 tutorials :lol:. I hated the ut2kx tutorials because they were just movies. The ut99 tutorials were interactive and really immersive. This isn't really a big thing, but i would like interactive tutorials for each of the game modes just like ut99. Preferably with a special map that can't be seen anywhere else in the game for each tut, just like in UT1.

    Also, make bots more interesting! I still find the ut99 ones to be the best. You can order your whole team to "Hold this position" on a DM map and your whole team will converge on that spot and defend it like a flag base.
     
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  19. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    In a "war game" I would agree. In GTA4 it sounds forced like they had to try and write them in after the script was already written. And some games like Unreal/UT having them or not having them makes pretty much no difference, so the choice to remove them is really nice.
     
  20. xMurphyx

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    Ok, if I could buy the FLaG nonsense I could buy the huge bulky macho soldiers who are treated and described as war veterans all the time yet they wisely chose not to fight at all when there are no respawners (kind of like a marine going: "Hells naw, I ain't going out there. I can play some CS or CoD4 against them pesky camel jockeys but real combat? Naw, not me...").
    But then Epic should have made a little cutscene similar to the WAR victory vids of the cores exploding that showed the "defeated" enemies fleeing or maybe even make a few little chase missions. Or, cheaper even, just a few voiced comments from your comrades about how the opponents are a bunch of wussies who won't fight without respawners around. Anything, really. Anything that indicates that this isn't just pure old classic CTF forced into "warfare".

    Besides: What happens if the other team caps your flag too often? You don't have the option to fight on (with just the one life you are currently living) either!

    Haha. Why am I even writing this. As if it wasn't clear from the first time anyone saw this in their games that it doesn't make any sense.:lol:
     

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