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Unreal II Overrated

Discussion in 'News & Articles' started by RaptoR, Sep 17, 2003.

  1. RaptoR

    RaptoR been here far too long

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    GameSpy has featured Unreal II in its 'Most Overrated Games of All Time' feature. Unreal II comes in at number 12.

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  2. RegularX

    RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies

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    They should be putting that as a disclaimer on most of these, I think. It seems that trade sites like GSpy haven't caught on to something most of us learned years ago: never trust the screenshots.
     
  3. Rooster

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    I agree, Unreal II was very disappointing.

    :(
     
  4. Rodzilla

    Rodzilla PuF Fossil

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    What's new? Unreal 2's overrated-ness was known by everyone the day it was released.
     
  5. Ordagon

    Ordagon Guest

    What?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

    What the... I just can,t belive what i read.
    I own Unreal 2 and i love it it's not just a game it's a very powerfull tool for me and people who work with 3d editing, and of course the game it's not perfect but i know that is one of the best games that i have played ever!!!!. Unreal it isn't just a game it's an oportunity for every member of the unreal comunity to express what they fell inside.

    I OWN UNREAL 2, AND I LOVE IT.

    Ordagon the Unreal defender will keep defending it forever!!!
     
  6. DarkEmperor

    DarkEmperor Buried By The Dead

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    I agree. But the article is just so ridiculous. Any game could be considered overrated, and Legend never claimed that U2 would be the revolution in gaming. gamespy and co. overrated the game by themselves.
    Take Return To castle wolfenstein for example:
    This game was rated with 74%

    now to U2, which got 76%
    see the similarities? But U2 must be beaten to death!

    The final words of the review were something like:
    "the game is very good, polished etc, but it has no multiplayer so screw it, we 'll give it a 74 and you just go get ut2k3" :rolleyes:

    The situation is worse in other review sites like gamespot who gave RtCW 92%! and had to say this :

    So the game is sh1t but it got 92% due to the mp! :rolleyes:

    For me these reviewers have no credibility...
    I wonder if they have the guts to re-review the game after the arrival of XMP
     
  7. RegularX

    RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies

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    You are mostly right, I think.

    When U2 starts to pick up hype, they start to praise it.

    When it mysteriously doesn't live up to their praise, they write an article about how overrated it was.

    It's one way to cook up content.
     
  8. SkaarjMaster

    SkaarjMaster enemy of time

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    I'll let you know when I actually get past the cut scenes on my new rig in about 5 months. My present machine will not play Unreal2, but I do have it. I'm sure I'll be installing Doom3, UT2004, Unreal2 and, of course, second installs of UT and UT2003 on the new and second rig (keeping the old one as well); anyone for one-on-one LAN, hehe.
     
  9. hal

    hal Dictator Staff Member

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    I enjoyed RTCW. I don't think it was overrated at all.
     
  10. Lizard Of Oz

    Lizard Of Oz Demented Avenger

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    100% agreement. I've played through it twice. The only other games I've play more than once are...

    Wolfenstien 3D
    Doom
    Unreal I
    Deus Ex
    Medal of Honor : Allied Assault

    ...and next on the list to get a second play... "No One Lives Forever II."
     
  11. Prophetus

    Prophetus Old Fart

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    I like to put a spin on this discussion. I don't think we should blame reviewers, Legend or the game. We should blame ourselves. We expected the game to be the end-all of games and looked to previews and reviews to strengthen our wishes. In our hopes to receive a great game, we went overboard in our expectations.

    Yes, U2 was a bitter disappointment, but it had some good qualities. At first, I enjoyed the game but the replay value really hit rock bottom. So we fed our expectations and hopes to receive a great sequel to Unreal and it was shattered due to the short comings. In that, we immediately overlooked and dismissed any good features U2 presented.

    Now a game has to have a good story and captivating levels. U2 did not have great levels and I totally agree it was not what we "expected". However, are we so shallow that we all need to be ruled by another person's opinion about a game? No, we are more intelligent than that...at least I hope so. Previews and reviews are just one person's opinion about something and that doesn't mean their opinion should become ours. I know we look to the "experts" for advice, but that doesn't mean we should submit to any loyalties and become hypnotize into agreement.

    U2 wasn't the greatest game, but it wasn't over rated. We placed high expectations on U2 that could not be reached.
     
  12. DarkEmperor

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    I just don't understand ppl and reviewers. We all knew from the beginning that U2 would be developed by Legend, that it would be a mission based sci/fi shooter rather than an andventurous and continous quest, set in a fantasy world. We knew that the only returning race would be the skaarj, that the story would involve 3 other crew members and that the gameplay would be more like Halo.

    So ppl knew from the beginning that the game wouldn't be a true sequel in every aspect of the original U1 but
    bitched after the release about the above over and over again...

    gamespy wrote:
    So why was U2 over rated again? What's the point of your article then? You can't just beat the game over and over just because in YOUR mind you expected it to be THE best fps ever... but as I said before there are some ridiculous reviewers that can give a game 74% (U2 76%) and consider it as a hit.
     
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  13. Yarr

    Yarr XMP Master Beta'er

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    I didnt really fall into the hype at all because I wasnt an Unreal fan to start off with. I only got unreal II because I was dead bored and that box happend to catch my eye. I dont think it was the best FPS ever but it IMO was worth the money I put down.

    I try to avoid reviews of games since it so subjective anyway. Just like movie reviews, you really cant trust what some one says.
     
  14. RegularX

    RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies

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    But didn't we get those expectations from the same trade rags now declaring it overrated? Wasn't Unreal II PC Gamer's "Most Anticipated" or something?

    I mean, I agree, we should not flog the reviewers - we should be realistic. This is how this game (no pun intended) is played. Companies want to generate hype, so they prop up previews of games that are still in alpha production. Some poor developer thinking he got a day off gets stuck instead answering questions about blocks of code he hasn't even spec'd out yet ("So Unreal II will have some new revolutionary multiplayer mode, right?" "Oh ... yeah. It's like nothing you've seen. Or anything I've seen....")

    Then the fans start talking about it, the trade rags see us talking about it, and keep feeding the fire. Meanwhile, two months later, Exec #3 tells some poor developer that, well, maybe that multiplayer thing isn't in the budget.

    I think games should be advertised like movies. Don't start showing us still until it's mostly in the can. Sure, some scenes might get deleted that we saw in the trailer, or that really cool line doesn't make it in - but the movie I pay for is still the movie I saw.

    Sure, occasionally there will still be lemons a la Highlander 2, but think of all the time and paper we would have saved by not talking about, say, Duke Nukem Forever -- ever?
     
  15. Prophetus

    Prophetus Old Fart

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    Gah, Highlander 2...made me cry:). Yes, I agree that reviewers, sites, mags and other publications can and will hype up a game, but the ultimate test of common sense still falls upon us. That is why I like the free demos, they don't lie, and in most cases, they are worse than the actual release. All I'm saying is that if we believe in the hype, without a bit of control, we will be disappointed...even if the hype is true.
     
  16. RegularX

    RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies

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    I would have walked out of Highlander 2 if my mind was so busy trying to figure out what the hell they had done to the franchise.

    I love demos. If a demo impresses me even somewhat, I'm pretty likely to buy the game - knowing that it will be better when it's out. If it annoys me, I can still give the game a bit of a benefit of the doubt - or know safely that core gameplay is just not for me.

    We should start a litany when discussing previews - like "I know it's only a preview..."
     
  17. Myrmecophagavir

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    I don't see why our expectations couldn't have been reached - good games deserve good sequels. The previews for U2 often were very exciteable without presenting any actual information, which caused an increase in hype. But not all; in particular some of the earlier ones were very balanced and told us things that would be in the game, that never appeared. We didn't read anything into them.
     
  18. Prophetus

    Prophetus Old Fart

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    Maybe you didn't...but my comments weren't for people like you. However, I believe the majority of gamers left little room for the shortcomings of U2.
     
  19. Prophetus

    Prophetus Old Fart

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    Good points, but nobody forces us to believe. We control what we wish to accept and question. Therefore, no matter how much somebody else hypes up a product, it is utimately our decision to accept and believe. Nobody forces us to buy a game.

    I will agree that devs contribute to the hype, but not more than the previewers and reviewers. Devs don't release all the information, they just give access or insites.
     
  20. Balton

    Balton The Beast of Worship

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    game spy says that donkey kong country on snes was overrated and hyped. I still love that game. there is a bunch of games on that list that dont belong there.
     

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