uDa vs. Bua IGL match

[|uDa|Deity]

That was some quick games Bua. We are looking forward to challenging you guys again once you get a coupld rungs higher on the ladder. In case you were wondering what the rules are, here is a copy:

Server Selection
The minimum amount of bandwidth that a server hosting a match is 1mbps/1mbps (This means symmetrical, 1 megabit upstream and downstream). No Cable Modem, ADSL, ISDN, or LAN servers, the only exception to this are if both captains agree. Captains be warned: after both teams have clicked in, you have made your choice. IGL recommends T1 servers as a minimum. Both teams should offer at least 1 server preferably 2, 24 hour before the match to help cut down on delays. IGL has a limited number of servers available to reserve for matches, however it is best to contact a ladder admin 3-4 days in advance of a match to request one.

Ping Disputes
We believe that a 40 ms team difference is acceptable; we will allow you to make a choice to play out of that range.

Situations

1. If both teams have servers, have offered servers and cannot agree where to play, they can choose to split maps between servers however, if a tiebreaker has to be played, the server will be chosen by the challenged team. In the event that the server offered by the challenged team does not comply with established IGL guidelines for fair play, a split server match may be played, with the tiebreaking map consisting of ten minutes in both servers.

We will be challenging you guys again once you win a game, and we WILL be playing on our server. Enjoy!

Incase someone was wondering the results:

PWNED

 

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Ya know... what happened last night was not only childish, but completely ignorant.
Coming to our forums and doing this?
Anyone ever hear of a word called sportsmanship?

But it's a good thing that you came here and posted the rules, because now I can see for myself that there is absolutely nothing in them that states a challenged team is required to play one map on one server and one map on another server.
It does say that any server related problems are to be taken care of 24 hours in advance.

Situations

1. If both teams have servers, have offered servers and cannot agree where to play, they can choose to split maps between servers however, if a tiebreaker has to be played, the server will be chosen by the challenged team. In the event that the server offered by the challenged team does not comply with established IGL guidelines for fair play, a split server match may be played, with the tiebreaking map consisting of ten minutes in both servers.

Please note;

they can choose to split maps between servers

Also note;

In the event that the server offered by the challenged team does not comply with established IGL guidelines for fair play, a split server match may be played, with the tiebreaking map consisting of ten minutes in both servers.

The key words here are;

In the event that the server offered by the challenged team does not comply with established IGL guidelines for fair play

I don't know how you took this, but I take it as; if our server or your server does not meet the minimum requirements for IGL standards,

then a split server match may be played, with the tiebreaking map consisting of ten minutes in both servers.

And seeing as both of our servers are IGL standard, if you challenge us, then we have the right to play on our server, as per the rules, without having to listen to the team members of the challenging team complain, spit out obscenities, and basically act like a 4 year old throwing a tantrum in the toy department.

Oh yes, and I just wanted to clarify that I personally do not ping better on your server... yes, it is in the 70s on the rare occassion that I play there, but there seems to be some problem we all get on your server, that makes the maps seem jumpy like our frames dropped to about 10 per second.
I believe that 90% of our folks have played on your server, and of those 90%, we have all seen the same thing happen.
This is why we don't want to play on your server.

If you decide to challenge us again, I suggest you (the team captains) go to IGL and ask for a server from them, because I will not play on a server where I can't hit a player standing in front of me. And I certainly won't play on that server because 5 people on the opposing team lay on the floor and kick and scream about rules they apparently aren't reading themselves.

 

[«BuA»Meat]

ouch i guess it' was not a pretty night in the house!

thank god i was working

 

[TAZTG]

I for one had no FUN last nite trying to play this Ladder Match. It was the Constant Barrage of Insults from |uDa| that ruined it for me.
Now Deity come's here to Post more Crap is just another insult.
I was assuming that a CLAN as good as |uDa| would have better respect and a much better attitude then that. Yes you all played Extremely well and Kicked Arse and I even stated so but to blow this Server thing out of proportion like that is just LAME!!

Just for future reference, please contact «BuA» 24 hrs in advance of the match time if you want to split servers.

 

[|uDa|Deity]

I dont recall you every telling us 24 hours in advance that we would be playing all the matches on your server, we were WAITING on our server, and when you told us you wanted to play the first map (your map) on your server, we had no problem with it.

Now if you will look closely, I dont want you to miss this:

1. If both teams have servers, have offered servers and cannot agree where to play, they can choose to split maps between servers

Obviously we did not AGREE to play all 3 maps on your server. And the 24 hours in advance...Did you eve attempt to contact us to tell us ALL maps would be played on your server? uDa assumed that since we had the better server, all maps would be played on our server. But when you asked, we were more then happy to play your map and the TB on your server, but we wanted to play our map on our server.

I noticed when you guys came into our server to DEMAND we play our map on your server, someone from your clan had a 26 ping on our server. Now looking at the SS, I dont see anyone coming close to that on your server.

Now...Take a nice long look at the Throns SS. Now look at tazmans ping! 217?? Ya...Your server rocks!!

As I recall I was very nice during the first stages of our disagreement, asking you to get on MSN or AIM so I could message you the listing of rules, and also so you could talk to Deadman, who as leader of IGL, told me we had every right to play our map on our server. But we you constantly told me you wouldnt get on aim or MSN, and that you are looking at the rules and cant find the section. That shows me that you KNOW we are right, but since you just got pwned 10-1, you want to be little bitches about it.

I'm not a very angry person. If you check the uDa forums, you will notice that I have not been involved in ANY of the flame wars on our forums, or on anyone else's forums. I never get involved in these things, and I usually like it that way. But I got upset when you started crying about going to our server (a much better server), when we had every right to do so.

I'm sorry that you guys practice as often as you do, and can not pull off something better then a 10-1 match. Maybe the reason you guys are failing on IGL is due to the sh**ty server you practice on. But good luck with everything, and we look forward to challenging you guys again once you get above 1200 points.

 

[Shattered_Steel]

Before any «BuA» members respond to Deity, I want to say that *NO* flame wars have occurred on the «BuA» forum, and they aren't going to. The only way it will happen is if it is between two non-BuA people. A disagreement over servers does not seem to me anything to get in a twist about, so all «BuA» members are going to drop it. No «BuA» members should respond further on this topic.

 

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I dont recall you every telling us 24 hours in advance that we would be playing all the matches on your server, we were WAITING on our server, and when you told us you wanted to play the first map (your map) on your server, we had no problem with it.

Obviously we did not AGREE to play all 3 maps on your server. And the 24 hours in advance...Did you eve attempt to contact us to tell us ALL maps would be played on your server? uDa assumed that since we had the better server, all maps would be played on our server. But when you asked, we were more then happy to play your map and the TB on your server, but we wanted to play our map on our server.

The only (and obvious) point you're making is that the team captains didn't agree on the server/servers to be played on 24 hours in advance.

 

[|uDa|Deity]

I was also trying to clarify the rules for those people who misunderstand them. Aside from the fact that the rules show me to be right, I would also like to point out that it is common courtesy to allow the opposing team to play the map they choose on their own server.

If anyone feels the need for a retort that may land you some trouble on this forum. Feel free to visit us at http://www.clan-uda.com and scroll to the "Braggin/FLaming/Bishing", and click on the "continuation of Bua dispute"

 

[Unforseen]

I don't think this should be taken any farther because all this **** started over a server dispute. Do I think it lame for you guys to refuse to play on our server? Yes. But I'm not coming here to flame you guys any. Whatever Deity says is between him and you guys. I think he's just blowing off steam. Look forward to playing you guys again. L8ter.