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The Naked Ape, by Desmond Morris

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by NTKB, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Harrm

    Harrm I am watching porns.

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    ...that was an illustrative joke.

    --Harrm

    EDIT: "Being gay" is something in high debate these days. Studies suggest there may be some genetic disposition to it or some biological function (they did some research with testosterone wash awhile back I recall) that are related, but not a direct result of, being gay. But there are other studies that say it may be an enviromental thing.

    EDIT EDIT: Seriously. I'm going to bed now.
     
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  2. Psychomorph

    Psychomorph  

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    They is no self, just function of your beeing system that can be influenced, by 'you'. If it doesn't influenced by the 'you', it forms 'you' via enviruomental randomness ('you' win, or it wins over 'you').

    Intelligence is a function everybody if capable of, just by having a brain, sad thing is, the way the power of the brain is used can depend on genetics (Einstein, Hawk), or on events (many people experienced that after Accidents, or similar).
    Sometimes it can be reached via the influence by 'you', which is so hard that I call it potentionally impossible.
    Means, we all are capable of beeing Einsteins, but possibility is nothing without an accurate method.

    Looks is caused by genetics (a consistancy that appears as 'good looking' in our mind system).
    Genetics can be influenced (in our case by technology), so I'm sure it is possible to totally transform a human, including changes of the looks and mind (intelligence too).
    A human beeing is totally customizeable thing, but again, possibility is nothing without methods.


    That means you can do soooo f-kin much in/with your life, possebilities are insane, but the abilities are often so small due to your invironment (growing up in sh!t makes you sh!t if you're not innerly powerrfull enough), your actual mindstate (weak, or powerfull) and some leaks of will.
    All that (your abilities) is allready influenced by the genetics/mindstate allready, so if you're fuked up in life, you experience double pwnage.
     
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  3. NTKB

    NTKB Banned

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    *FOR ON TOPIC COMMENT, SKIP TO PARAGRAPH 3 PLEASE*

    :rolleyes:

    I think you are the one who needs help. "OMG I believe I am God so now I am God since I believe it." Please. :rolleyes: I fail to see how I am wrong, I even layed out easily understandable analogies but they obvously blew right over your head. You on the other hand can only say "omg no you are wrong" without any type of evidence other then your mighty words. You must really believe you are special dont you? Keep believing your significance lies on an individual level, and blowing your ego into outer space *shakes head and laughs slightly* Sychomorph, dont even argue with him. He has always been the holier then thou type anyway.

    Psychomorph, you are slightly wrong about "everyone being able to be einsteins." More and more research is showing that the structure of the brain itself relates to intelligence. I would think that was obvious, given that many animals have larger or smaller brains but cannot think on a higher level like us. Yes, some of us are simply genetically superior to others, and it has nothing to due with race but the roll of the dice so to speak. That combined with a solid education and a reasoning mind *cough look above cough* leads to an individual who has the capacity to be considered an "einstein." Even then, the individuals significance to society lies within what others paradigms are willing to view him. I dont need to argue this point anymore, its clear and obvious. But im sure Mr. Psychology 101 will argue it anyway, in a cyber cock measuring contest instead of just enlightening himself.

    Back on topic *which is sure to be derailed shortly by agendas*, To the Euros, How open sexually is your society really? Can someone please give a fairly concise report on this? I ask because its apparant by reading the Naked Ape that sexuality played a large role in our early cultural developement. It seems the US tries so hard to repress these sexual urges that it might actually be causing more bad psychologically then good. I have a general picture of sexuality in this country but I know very little of the supposidly open sexual environment that exists in Europe.
     
  4. cracwhore

    cracwhore I'm a video game review site...

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    Wow.

    Gasp!


    Whoa there - let's not get ahead of ourselves!


    That-a-boy!

    *HIGH-FIVE!* o/\o
     
  5. NTKB

    NTKB Banned

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    Wow to think I once considered you a friend...
     
  6. cracwhore

    cracwhore I'm a video game review site...

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    Oh, come now. I wasn't that harsh...

    Glad to see you're doing something about it. Good luck with that.
     
  7. NTKB

    NTKB Banned

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    Yay he loves me. :D
     
  8. UN17

    UN17 Taijutsu Specialist

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    Completely unrelated, but your new signature involving the Ad Hominem fallacy has got me reading about dozens of other funny logical fallacies. It's fun reading! Thanks :p
     
  9. Derelan

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    I tend to disagree with NTKB's theory that we are only what other people think of us...
     
  10. Harrm

    Harrm I am watching porns.

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    Because his theory is rebuked in about 5 minutes of actual reading in any psych or sociology or communications textbook.

    I suggest you read Choke. It's a very popular novel written by a very popular author. It wont take long to find. It's about a man and his self-perception.

    One thing you have to ask yourself, is if you truely believe that you are God, does it matter that anybody else says you're not? Here's an analogy: if I said you're a moron, does it even matter to you? You could be a complete dumbass, but it wouldnt matter, because in your mind you are 'intelligent' because others around you told you that you are; or you "came to realize it". Existance is only what we percieve it to be, NTKB.

    And if you're so fickle or basic that the compliments of others are the only thing driving your self-perception, you have a very, very serious mental disorder.

    --Harrm
     
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  11. NTKB

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    "Existance is only what we percieve it to be, NTKB."

    Exactly, "We," not I. I did not say what others say about you is truth, I just said it measures your significance. I obviously got alittle off topic of the subject of significance. Also, I did not say how we view ourselves has no meaning, its more a combination of the two. If we view ourselves as significant in some way, then it usually translates into our interactions with others, which effects how they view us, which is the true value of who we are. To think our true significance lies in an individuals mind is inane considering the social animal we are. I could throw millions of analogies at you, but its obvious egocentrics like Derelan and yourself will never get it. Just keep dreaming you are someone important, one day it might actually happen. And I will not read "choke." I have better things to read, such as the Human Zoo. I dont need to read a book on a concept so simple as self worth and significance in a social environment, especially considering the general attitude and mindset of the average westerner is narcissistic and self centered to the point where I dont doubt entire textbooks have been written on how "I am so important cause I think it." Rubbish. :rolleyes:

    My fellow Americans, please stop thinking you are the "bomb", the "****" or any other propping word. Most of the world hates us, and that is where our significance lies, not in our own warped view of reality. But hey, if we kill everyone else and only leave ourselves here, then it will actually be truth. w00t. :rolleyes:

    And it was my pleasure UN17.

    I see this topic will never get back on topic sadly.
     
  12. Logan6

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  13. Psychomorph

    Psychomorph  

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    Nah, existance is what it is, floating energy (and no, not in empty space, that was allready disproved 100 years ago).

    When you're dead and people know you as hero, what benefit you have? Only when you live you probably have. You benefit from what other think only when you can recognize it, think about it and most important enjoy it.
    To care about what people will think after your death is just an in-life ego thing (or fear).


    I can get back on topic only when I read the book.
     
  14. U/D/T/SNAKE

    U/D/T/SNAKE Only partially annoying now

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    Are you kidding me. Did you even watch the videos I posted? Clearly you can see the Army (sorry guys) in a free for all with not one order being given, and the Marine video from CNN shows classic discipline and fire control that marines use. Sure, the hardest part is always not firing in the wrong direction...it takes discipline...fire control is paramount. We do take the extra second or two to distinguish between enemy and good guy while during that time putting yourself at risk...its what we get paid for...read up or watch a video before you make a statement like that.

    And...not for nothin, Army Ranger, Airborne, and natutally SF and Clandestines do as well.
     
  15. The_Pikeman

    The_Pikeman Also known as Howski

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    Not to have a go but everything I have heard about the whole US armed forces is exactly the same. I will add thats not that I have any experance but on what I have heard. But then again the average brittish squadie does have a bit of a grudge against the foot soldiers of the 'good old USofA'
    -How.
     
  16. Psychomorph

    Psychomorph  

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    Why?

    OT @U/D/T/SNAKE:
    Can you give some links to the videos you speak about? Or any other video stuff?
     
  17. The_Pikeman

    The_Pikeman Also known as Howski

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    Well they get treated better. A good example is in the recent Gulf war all the americans had those blue porta-pottys and the brittish were told to dig holes.
    -How.
     
  18. Psychomorph

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    Well brits are oldschool :p
     
  19. U/D/T/SNAKE

    U/D/T/SNAKE Only partially annoying now

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    Only as old as the rifle in this case.
     
  20. The_Pikeman

    The_Pikeman Also known as Howski

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    No the british armed forces logistics are a joke, you only have to look at the desert boot or the tank air filters scandels to see that.
    -How.
     

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